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Do Your Own Research: Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!

Note: After I posted the article below it was pointed out to me that the source was questionable (See Comments). Upon rereading it my guess is that there is an element of truth mixed with fiction. Below is an edited version of what originally appeared here. After I do some more research I may pull the whole thing...

"Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.

There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.

An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine..."

Source: Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies. Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health

Comments (11)

Suza - in doing my own research, I find:

1) both links you provide are bad - the message board that doesn't exist last had activity in 2006 based on archive.org and the personal site is a joke.

2) The "doctor" from the University of West Indies supposedly got a PhD in Business Administration, a program that doesn't appear to exist:
http://www.uwi.edu/students/programmes.aspx

3) I found a link to this incredibly inflammatory post:
Patricia A. Doyle DVM: There Will Be a Huge Flood of Sick Mexican Illegals Heading for US

It sure looks like Pat is a sock puppet, spreading disinformation all across the conspiracy sites.

As for me, per your comments in my other thread, I never even mentioned a "vaccine" - I'm compiling information much as I would for a wildfire in our mountains.

Thank you, Tyler, I stand corrected.

I will check out what you discovered and pull the article or add corrections, if necessary.

However I stand by my recommendation not to take the vaccine.

Just got back from helping my senior citizen parents and saw a flyer at their house urging them to get the shot

There is NO swine flu vaccine. See my comment and research on your other thread.

(sorry, I didn't want to sound mean - I was just trying to respond quickly. You're still one of my favorite people. :)

aye, all ...

certainly wouldn't recommend anyone let themselves be vaccinated.

and thanks for the Pat Doyle articles, Suza, and the links Tyler.

Doyle's definitely a provincial nutcase, but still has more integrity than any physician.

as to her nuts, how about this quote:

"our health care system [will] crash" from the flood of "Mexican illegals" with the Swine Flu, flooding across our border ... in her estimation.

my reply: best thing that could happen to U.S. would be a crash of our fascist petrochemical industry guinea pig 'health' (death) system.

I still think she's a sock puppet, whoever she is. The author credit lists her "new" website, which has almost no content, and nothing since 2005/06. And yet she's raising the red flag on illegals? I don't buy it.

Man, you can't trust ANYTHING you read on teh internets!

Hi Tyler,
I wrote you a message right after your Comment #4 appeared, thanking you for doing such a good job, but it seems to have disappeared.

I'll pick up that vaccine flyer I saw at my parent's house later today, and let you know what it says.

Sorry this is so long, but oh, Dr. Pat Doyle led me on a marvelous escape from work (and reality) this morning...

She's listed as a "columnist" on this site: http://www.rense.com/ which is a delightful swirl of conspiracy theory, paranoia, and pretty much anti-everything, and which is hosted by Jeff Rense, who apparently got his media start at our very own KEYT in Santa Barbara, and who now lives in the land of whackitude.(Some might argue it's not a far trip from SB to whackitude, but I digress...)

If you scroll down, you'll find a list of your columnists which links to a series of her articles (or letters to him, as the case may be) -- it's worth going to the home page to get the full effect of the site.

Not only did she get deathly ill from the "swine flu vaccine" she also survived SARS in 1993! (Which, oddly enough, her doctors didn't diagnose as such...)

And in the hysterical haze of crazy conspiracy theories (not unmixed with a superb hypochrondra), she writes that her relatives actually know what happened to the Lindburgh baby. I love this! Can a connection to Amelia Earhart, Area 51, and the World Trade Center be far behind...???

Ah, well, apparently the Holocaust isn't...

In another splendid anecdote, from Lorraine Day, the used-to-be-orthopedic surgeon who's now the Holocaust denying, beet-eating cancer survivor:

"One of those “Experts” is “Patricia Doyle” who admits this is not her real name, who claims to be a Ph.D. and a D.V.M. but refuses to reveal publicly WHERE and WHEN she received those degrees, or under what name. Jeff Rense says that “Patricia Doyle” has told HIM these things, and HE is satisfied with her answers, and that should be good enough for me – and everyone else. According to Jeff, neither I nor anyone else should ask any more questions about “Patricia Doyle” or her credentials."

She's angry because "Pat Doyle" apparently didn't believe the the Bird Flu (and apparently Swine Flu) was a government plot...so I guess Pat just wasn't paranoid enough for her...

I miss so much, living in my little rational world!

Best,
Leigh


PS: Suza, I TOTALLY didn't mean that post to be rude to you -- I just was completely amused and think you got snookered. (Which happens to all of us, no doubt.)

You read credentials like hers and assume someone is a grownup -- but, in the immortal words of Gershwin, "It ain't necessarily so..."

Lorraine Day is certainly proof of that!

All the best,
Leigh

OK THAT does it!

I will remove the rest of the article but I do have somethng more to say about all this soon as I have time!

From here on I will research my research before posting anything even if it is sent to me by one of the smartest most reliable independent researchers I know!

Thanks, Leigh!

I finally had a chance to Google, "What is swine flu?"

The various theories out there are amazing.

Everything Is Connected.

When we look back on this era a few years from now many more connections will have seen the light of day.

I'm going to repeat what I wrote under another Post here:

Yesterday I found a two-sided legal length flyer in English and Spanish, published by the Ventura County Health Services Agency, at my parent's house.

The headlines proclaimed :

QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE SWINE FLU IMMUNIZATION PROGRAM.

It explained about the discovery of the swine flu virus and the two types of Swine Flu Vaccines (Monovalent and Bivalent).

And why it is URGENT that senior citizens (like my parents) get the vaccine.

The next headline yelled,
HOW TO GET YOUR FLU SHOT.
and listed the times and locations.

The first time I read the flyer I confess I did not notice the date of the year. It irked me that my octogenarian parents were urged to participate in what I consider an unscientific, unethical, experimental program, at the risk of their health.

That is in part what prompted me to hastilly post yesterday's "alternative" viewpoint on Swine Flu.

When I went back to retrieve the flyer I saw that it was dated 1976!

Times have changed.

The propoganda surrounding vaccines has a new spin.

Not a word is mentioned on the CDC web site about how we have turned the production of animal products, in this case pigs, into an unimaginable house of horrors.

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