This end of the valley, particularly on this lovely quiet morning, was peaceful, there was no sound of traffic. The hills were behind you and the tallest mountain in this region was over 6,000 feet. This house is surrounded by orchards, bright yellow oranges, and the sky was blue without a single cloud. You could hear the murmur of bees among the flowers in the still quiet morning. The old oak tree behind the house was a great age; the strong winds had broken many dead branches. It has survived many storms, many summers of great heat and the cold winters. Probably it could tell you a lot of stories but this morning it was very quiet, there was no breeze. Everything around you was full of green and bright oranges, yellow and shining, and perfume filled the air — the perfume of jasmine.
This valley is far from all the noise and the bustle of human traffic, of humanity, of all the ugly things that are going on in the world. The orange trees were just beginning to show their fresh young flowers. The scent of it would fill the valley in a week or two and there would be the hum of thousands of bees. It was a peaceful morning and beyond all this lay the sick world, a world that is becoming more and more dangerous, more and more corrupt, vastly dull in search of entertainment, religious and otherwise. The superficiality of existence is thriving.
Krishnamurti to Himself
March 15, 1983
Beautiful picture Tyler. I’m sorry I have to mess it all up with this…
Here’s a little thought experiment. Imagine if you took the city of Philadelphia, and put a fence on all sides but the river. Then you make it impossible for any shipping via the river, coming or going. Make sure the fence is 18 to 30 feet high and topped with razor wire and patrolled by soldiers. Let me just stop here for a second and ask, if you did just this much to Philly, how many weapons do you think they’d be shooting over the wall and how fast? Right… moving on. Now cut off much of their food and water, bring it down to mere subsistence for over a year. We’re talkin’ no cheese steak, none. Now, fly American made fighter/bombers and helicopters over the walls and commence dropping American made bombs on whoever happens to be below in that densely populated area with no real way to get out because they are basically prisoners.
What kind of crime would the citizens of Philadelphia have to commit for this to be an appropriate response? No wait, not all the citizens. Just a group of them. What would a group of citizens in Philadelphia have to do for the whole population to deserve this type of response?
The city of Philadelphia is the same size in land area as the Gaza Strip. Further, Philadelphia is our 6th largest urban area and the population density is very similar to the population density of the Gaza Strip.
What’s happening in Gaza is a war crime. Pure and simple. The Israelis should be ashamed and if there is such a thing as progressive or liberal Israelis, they need to take control of their government and stop this thing. They have elections coming up on Feb 10th. If the citizens of Israel allow the right-wingers to stay in control, they need to just give up any pretense of either Democracy or progressive ideals. There can be no rational excuse for bombing what is essentially an open air prison. Dropping bombs on extremely poor people, women and children, who have first been penned in with fences and razor wire is so blatantly wrong that it staggers the mind.
It is disappointing to read a statement such as Comment #2. It is also alarming to think that this portrayal of Israel and the Palestinians will be taught to the children of persons writing such distorted views.
A few things to keep in mind:
Why are the Palestinians in the Gaza strip, or the Westbank when the Arab population of the Middle East controls 99.4% of all the land in that region.
If the Arab world is concerned about the Palestinians, why don’t they let them join their societies? That would include the countries of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other countries in the area.
CNN has reported that the total contribution of the Arab world to the welfare of the palestinians is $7 million annually. If the Arab world is so angry at Israel, why aren’t they setting an example by helping instead of hollering?
Most of the money for the survival of the Palestinian people comes from Europe, the United States and Japan.
I’m going to close without referencing the many terrorist acts committed against Israel by the Palestinians.
Is it a crime for a country to defend itself against suicide bombers and rockets by people who are convinced that God wants them to murder the Israeli people?
The Palistinians in Gaza elected Hamas, a known terrorist organization, as their government. Hamas to this day does not recognize Israel’s right to exist.
Here’s a another experiment. Imagine if you took Ventura County, and surrounded it on all side but the ocean, with a half dozen other nations who, for over 60 years, have sworn to attack whenever possible and drive you into the sea. Then they make it impossible to ever co-exist in peace and they betray every treaty that they’ve ever had by supporting terrorist to do the dirty work for them.
As a last resort you build a fence for defense that is 18 to 30 feet high and topped with razor wire and patrolled by soldiers.
Let me just stop here for a second and ask, if you did just this, do you think they’d stop attacking you over the wall?
Right… moving on. Now these nations cut off much of your commerce with the rest of the world for six (6) decades. Now, when you defend yourself every knee-jerk liberal and reactionary in America comes to the defense of this enemy who has sworn to annihilate you. Still every day rockets and fighters and suicide bombers come over and under the walls killing whoever happens to be riding in a bus or going to a restaurant.
What kind of crime did the citizens of Ventura County commit for them to be an attacked for six decades? No wait, not all the citizens. Just a group of them. What would a group of citizens in Ventura County have to do for the whole population to deserve this type of response? The answer, they are Jewish! And they stand up for themselves… And they refuse to be murdered again…
This Ventura County is the same size in land area as Israel. Further, what’s happening in the Middle East is a war crime. Pure and simple. The Arabs should be ashamed – if they knew what shame was – and if there is such a thing as progressive or liberal Arabs, they need to take control of their governments and stop this thing. Fat chance that will ever happen…
Unfortunately there have never been free elections anywhere in the Arab Mid-East.. If the citizens of the Arab world would allow their dictators to stay in control, they need to just give up any pretense of either humanity or progressive ideals. There can be no rational excuse for terrorists bombings of what is essentially a peace loving nation that has given back 90% of all the lands it has conquered every time it has been attacked by its neighbors. Firing rockets and using suicide bombers on peace loving people, women and children, is so blatantly wrong that it staggers the mind.
Dennis,
Thou words art like a Fart;
Full of noise and
An intolerable stench;
Endlessly redundant;
Yet, sadly these fumes,
Sulfuric and repelling,
Signify nothing…
If thou art so lonely a man
that the Ojai Post is thy sole connection
to the human race,
Why not wed a Jock,
become a Doubleday…
And then the Twain shall converse together,
in their own little sphere
of misanthropy and f*scism,
of h*mophobia and anti-sem*tism…
Thus, joyfully, leaving the rest of us
clean air to breathe
unfouled by thy tedious stench
On this Planet called Ojai
Assuming the two anonymous views are actually the same person let me first address the elections point you bring up. If I’m not mistaken, Hamas was democratically elected. At the time several international election monitors ruled the election fair and valid, including the UN and the Carter Center. From that point on the government of Israel began cutting off water, food as well as continuing to building what has been termed an apartheid wall around Gaza and the West Bank.
Your inversion of my logic above was nice, but you let your true feelings slip with the following:
The Arabs should be ashamed – if they knew what shame was – and if there is such a thing as progressive or liberal Arabs,
I’m pretty sure we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on most of the rest, but I still haven’t heard any justification for bombing an open air prison with women and children trapped inside.
Terrorism is wrong in all it’s forms. Violence only ever brings yet more violence. Now, it’s true that Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization. But it might be useful to look back at history and realize that the forerunner of the right-wing of Israeli politics, Irgun, was also considered a “terrorist” organization before May 1948. One of the commanders of Irgun, Menachem Begin, even became the sixth prime minister of the state of Israel. Arguably, Israel was brought into being by “terrorist” organizations like Irgun and Lehi or the Stern Gang as the Brits called them. When Israel was recognized by the UN in 1948, members of the Irgun formed the Israel Defense Forces that are currently fighting in Gaza.
This current Israeli violence is an act of political cynicism. The current Israeli government, being tenuously controlled by the Kadima party, chose this period between US Presidents, during the holidays to begin bombing the Gaza Strip for a very specific and Machiavellian reason. The purpose of this military action is to bolster the prospects of the Kadima party in the upcoming election on Feb 10th. Who is controlling the Israeli military? Acting Prim Minister Tzipi Livni and good old Ehud Barak, both formerly of the ultra right-wing Likud party. Through whatever byzantine political machinations Livni followed Ehud Ulmert, Ehud Barak when Ariel Sharon left the Likud Party and started the supposedly centrist Kadima party in 2005. I say supposedly because it would be like the neo-con, hawkish, pro-Iraq war Republicans joining with a couple of the corporatist, “moderate”, pro-Iraq war Republicans and splitting from the born-again Christian, hawkish, pro-Iraq war, pro-Armageddon Republicans to form a new “centrist” party. Ridiculous! Anyway, Kadima has pretty much been a train wreck ever since Sharon slipped into a coma. Livni is running for Prime Minister because her Kadima party is too weak to form a government out of the ashes of the disgraced and corrupt Ulmert government. The rectal polyp masquerading as a human being, Benjamin Netanyahu, is once again the Likud candidate for PM running against her. When the morons who make up Hamas resumed lobbing largely ineffective “rockets” over the wall into Southern Israel and occasionally actually causing casualties, Netanyahu started getting traction against Livni and Ulmert’s wrecked government and therefore against the Kadima party. So Livni and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak decided to have a little bombing to show that they were just as bad-ass as Netanyahu.
According to The New York Times tonight, four Israeli civilians and one soldier have been killed since this whole thing started. The four civilians were killed by the rocket attacks. In contrast, upwards of 500 Palestinians have been killed. So for each Israeli killed, 100 Palestinians have died, many women and children.
spk- it’s at least 2 vs 1 (i am not another view or one more).
i am one who will defend israel’s right to exist and self-defend till the end of days.
spk- you seem to have a keen understanding of the political situation.
but do you really have a human understanding of the fact that 67% of European jewry was killed from the period 1932-1945, 90% of polish jews were killed during the 3rd reich (fortunately my parents survived)?
here is a suggestion- go see “Defiance”- new movie only playing in LA and NY right now but sure to come to a closer cinema soon.
have a nice day
What Should We Do About Mr. Johnson?
Sixty-odd years ago, Mr. Johnson suffered a terrible tragedy. His whole family was senselessly murdered by a band of thugs, in a city far from here.
We were compassionate then as we are now. Recall how we offered to take Mr. Johnson in. We gave him a sweet little farm in the east end. It would be a safe haven, a homeland where Mr. Johnson could rebuild from the tragedy that had befallen him.
Unfortunately, the farm was owned and ran at the time by the Roberts family. Recall how the city council exercised its power of eminent domain and evicted the Roberts from a corner of their farm. Many people disagreed with that action at the time.
In the sixty-odd years since, this situation has caused nothing but heartache here in our valley. The Roberts have never yet been able to resettle anywhere. They have been living in a tent on the border of their old farm, on land owned by their cousins. Every time they try to establish a home, they have been pushed back by Mr. Johnson.
True, to this day many members of the Roberts family refuse to accept Mr. Johnson’s ownership of their old farm. They have always insisted it was theirs, and claimed they were never fairly compensated. And the Roberts have found few defenders of the many acts of vandalism that Mr. Johnson has documented over the years.
But for his part, Mr. Johnson has hardly been a model of restrained behavior. He has constantly expanded his farm, planting trees and putting outbuildings on the Roberts farm, pushing the Roberts family further and further back every year.
The city’s knee-jerk backing of Mr. Johnson throughout this time has not helped. Many have argued that if the city would simply stop backing Mr. Johnson every time he further expanded his farm or encroached on his neighbors, this situation would long ago have resolved itself amicably. (Of course, it can’t be ignored that Mr. Johnson has been very savvy. He has been a very large contributor to the campaigns of all of the incumbent councilmembers, and he has been known to pour large amounts of money into campaigns to defeat candidates who do not express strong support for him. He also long ago hired the city attorney’s law firm for his private work, and put his money in the mayor’s family bank. Many have argued over the years that this explains why the city has so consistently refused to censor Mr. Johnson over the years, while it has always been quick to highlight and condemn every alleged act of vandalism from the Roberts side.)
In any event, between the Roberts vandalism and the Johnson encroachment, and all the cross-accusations and mutual provocations, it is understandable that many of us have thrown up our hands at this situation.
But now, the situation has really become intolerable. It turns out that last year, Mr. Johnson locked the remaining members of the Roberts family in a small woodshed, and refused to let them out. When one of the family members was able to scratch a hole big enough to fit his arm through the wall, apparently he threw a rock that almost hit one of Mr. Johnson’s kids on the rear.
In retaliation, Mr. Johnson lit the woodshed on fire, with the Roberts family still inside.
The paper has remained silent. True, it reported that one of the Roberts threw a rock at Mr. Johnson’s son. But it failed to report Mr. Johnson’s imprisonment of the Roberts in the woodshed, or his act of arson, and even editorialized that Mr. Johnson would be justified in defending himself from this type of rock-throwing however he saw fit.
So many of us are sick to death of this happening in our community. Mr. Johnson’s case was compelling when he came here. But at what point has he gone too far?
Are we really going to just stand by as Mr. Johnson burns the entire Roberts family alive?
What are we going to do about Mr. Johnson? The foregoing is fiction. Any resemblance to any persons or places living or dead is unintentional and purely coincidence. In particular, nothing in the foregoing depicts any actual person, living or dead, in the Ojai valley.
#10, #11, #12…
You all prove that a little knowledge is a dangerous tool in the hands of a simple mind… If you are going to attempt to create historical analogies, please take the time to study history – and not some superficial approximation you have garnered from watching a few headlines…
All you are doing is demonstrating your own woeful ignorance.
see this before it is censored
“The context is that there was (initially) a peaceful protest in the West Bank about the Gaza incursion. The protesters were primarily school age kids. The IDF opened fire on them. Ms. Arraf got between the bullets and the protesters.
There was a significantly longer video, but Google has already pulled it. They’ll pull this one as soon as it gets reported, I’m sure. Google has been pulling all footage not published by the Israeli ministries of information.
Footage of the UN school bombing that killed dozens today, pulled. Footage of the bombs hitting other UN schools…pulled. Footage of IDF standing on armored vehicles and picking off targets in the street…pulled.
All footage released by the IDF…still there. They have their own channel. Propaganda comes in the places you least expect.”
“If your unbelievably small and overcrowded land was being terrorized, pulverized by bombs from the world’s 4th largest military, and your borders were closed; if your house was not safe, mosque (church) not safe, school not safe, street not safe, UN refugee camp not safe…[and if your UN schools were not safe...]Where would you go,…” International Solidarity Movement
A little excerpt from a book written in 1986, But clearly getting closer to be very prophetic.
“At this late stage in the world, too much is at stake for metaphysical word games, philosophical and religious half-truths and psychological upmanship. We haven”t much linear time left to stand atop Da Shan in conscious living fact. So we are talking absolute reality now. Truth. Fact. More than that, we are saying something that everyone is going to find is true for himself, all alone, if only when the physical body stops responding to his every whim and is put aside in the experience the world calls death.
…..At this moment, civilization is a little like a field of cotton beginning to bloom: first a boll here, another there, then more and more until one morning we look out and the entire field is abloom. Or, it is like popcorn popping. One kernel pops, then another and another until there is a veritable explosion of the rest. Hard pressed, shaken together and running over, mankind is coming into a conscious knowledge of a subjective sense of things which is certain to alter the course of civilization.
The first ‘blooms’ have been the prophets, the seers, the avatars, the insightful, those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Now the field is turning white with the ability to perceive subjectively. Confusion abounds at the unrecognized newness of it all. Now that subjectivism is here, no one knows what to do with it. The major divisions of human activity have not made the necessary adjustments to allow the missile the freedom to change course. Neither education, government, religion nor metaphysics has made the full turn demanded of them–and the time is short…….”
Grace
Here is a little more, since I guess that was probably too small of a clip…seemed out of context…Without posting the whole dang book…Let’s try this:
“imagine the missile of collective civilization nearing its target, ready to receive its final redirection for the next and perhaps last phase of the trip-not unlike the “smart missile” that sees the target ahead and directs the internal mechanism to drive itself straight to the destination. For mankind, the destination is a rediscovery of simple subjectivism, a new mark in non-space and non-time, a fulfillment of the Original Purpose for tangible life on earth.
As far as the relationship between time and space and their interconnections to tangible life goes, the end-game’s corrective information is presently being received within the quantum body of civilization. This information is intended to adjust and correct society’s major systems for their final movement as mankind comes to discern the true nature of things-particularly time, space, matter and awareness (life). In many ways science-the vanguard of human wisdom-has nearly reached that comprehension already.
What does this final corrective feel like to you and me here in the old-world scene of things? It comes as a new clock turned on within us-as new sensitivity; an increasing intuitiveness; a new perception within us-as certain unfamiliar anxieties, disquiets, stresses and discomforts-as inexplicable fear and depression. Anyone can look at the human scene and see the lids popping off here and there with acts of insanity and people trying to satisfy impossible urges.
Who is to say what the northern geese feel before they assemble to make the trek south? Or the butterflies before they start their long upwind search for their ancestral birthplace? I know that dramatic course-altering input is presently arriving within mankind; the sensitive feel it especially. This arrival is not unlike the way the ability to perceive color has developed in mankind in recent millennia. We are told this sense is one of the latest developments of the human brain-but what is presently happening is at a deeper level of mentation. What is it? The arrival of the truly subjective nature of mentation-quantum man’s capacity for ever greater introspective self-examination.”
An entirely new concept of the Self…
Grace
It is only confusing for those who desperately want it to be. It is frankly sickening how torture becomes morally muddy and confusing, when our government is doing it. How indiscriminate bombing of innocent women and children is so confusing, because the side we are supposed to like is doing it.
As far as ignorance, if there is some knowledge I currently lack which would convince me that it is a good thing to murder these children who are locked down in a virtual prison: I can say only that I am blessed in my ignorance. “Knowledge” like that I can do without.
(I know what that kind of “knowledge” is, by the way. It always consists of historical examples of others who committed atrocities in achieving some end, which is proffered as perfectly admirable after the victims who would complain most are dead. The perpetrators commission history books which explain how much worse life would now be for everyone on the planet if the atrocities had not been committed. Study away, Dharma, show us your erudite scholarship, but that conclusion will always be suspect.)
Dharma, MK, Another View … what do you say now, that the Israeli army is bombing schools?
As SPK asked: How do you justify bombing women and children?
What place has pure slaughter and barbarism?
Let me suggest that for those of us who want Israel to survive and blossom, this can only be condemned.
It is time to call for a new Israel, one that separates itself from this state terrorism and endless war.
Talking ethics or morality on this subject is of course just pissing into the wind. But consider this:
For those hardliners who are looking for the standard American-style narrative, that says – once all the Palestinians are dead or reduced to a mere shadow stalking a refugee camp – that says wow, children, bow down to the brave soldiers who vanquished that horrible threat so now we can blossom in peace … the hawks have had sixty years to achieve that narrative. They have failed.
Time to try something new?
Ethics, morality, crimes against humanity aside: It ain’t working.
(If you think it is working, set your aspirations a little higher. Its not being a “glass-half-empty” sort to do so. Don’t delude yourself into thinking that a couple of drops of piss evaporating at the bottom of the glass is half a glass of anything you would want to drink.)
Living on Borrowed Time in a Stolen Land
by Gilad Atzmon / January 4th, 2009 Communicating with Israelis may leave one bewildered. Even now when the Israeli Air Force is practicing murder in broad daylight of hundreds of civilians, elderly persons, women and children, the Israeli people manage to convince themselves that they are the real victims in this violent saga. The circumstances that led to the Israeli Palestinian conflict are well hidden within their culture. Traces of pre-1948 Palestinian civilisation on the land had been wiped out. Not only the Nakba, the 1948 ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians, is not part of the Israeli curriculum, it is not even mentioned or discussed in any Israeli official or academic forum. story continues
Because this thread started with Something based in Light of Truth, I do not feel I am off subject here. Finding the True Identity and Living It, as far as I can tell, is going to be the only genuine and lasting way to bring peace to earth. If we do not change course soon, it will continue as is and get nothing but worse. It is time to wake up. Could we be Life ITSELF rather than the recipient of it? Isn’t it just possible that ISNESS, REALITY, All That Is Here and Now is the seer “seeing” and being the seen? As the old wise ones say, it is all about discovering the Oneness of Life. Separate sense of self living in an objective world is a false notion. Although it appears to be this way, it is not this way. It is our job to find out ‘who we really are’ then we share the Good News with the rest of ourself and then the world scene will begin to reflect the Beauty of this Light of Truth discovered. The answer is in in finding our True Identity.
I am reluctant to send this, but the gods have nudged me to do, I shall be brave.
Grace
…and not some superficial approximation you have garnered from watching a few headlines…
All you are doing is demonstrating your own woeful ignorance.
Sorry you feel that way, Dharma. But I respectfully beg to differ. Many of us HAVE “studied history” for quite some time (and then some)…
Wish I had more time to engage here, but my views are well stated in another thread (about the horror of the border crossings between Palestine and Israel). In a nutshell – I feel that Israel (who I used to be a staunch supporter of twenty years ago) has MUCH to answer for in the last few decades and the world should not (and will not) turn a blind eye to obvious crimes against humanity. And, in my opinion, bringing up the Holocaust (of which I have studied more than the average non-Jewish American, even spending one month of a vacation doing volunteer work at the camps of Auschwitz and Majdanek) – should NOT cause those of us who can see both sides of the tragegy to “tip toe” around the current crimes of the State of Israel. To do so would be against everything I stand for.
I think #10′s analogy has a lot more truth to it than your knee-jerk reaction….
Anon #17-19(I think they are all the same person),
The book you are quoting sounds interesting, but it has an Armageddonist feel from the excerpts you posted. I might be misunderstanding this book, and if I am please disregard, but I do not believe we are on anything like a short time line until some kind of end.
The Earth is 4+ billion years old and our sun is projected to keep fusing hydrogen in a suitable way for life on Earth to continue for another 4 billion years at least. Homo Sapiens are anywhere from 100,000 to 250,000 years old, depending on which scientists you consult. For most of recorded history humans have been engaging in vile acts of war and violence. There is even some evidence that violence is hardwired into our evolution. That doesn’t make it good, but it helps explain the repeated occurrence of these atrocities throughout our history.
The idea that we are in some kind of end times or Armageddon scenario actually enables violence. Indeed, this horrendous display by the right-wingers of the Israeli government are eerily similar to the fervent hopes of the psycho Christian Zionism of the extreme right-wing in this country promulgated by the likes of Pastor John Hagee and others in the evangelical world. This rapture/end times mentality actually encourages these acts and wars because people are able to continue to fool each other that the end is neigh. The biggest threat to the continued existence of our species is our own inability to overcome this and other behaviors.
Big things are happening. Climate change is real and very likely past the point of no return. Other environmental onslaughts are occurring as a direct result of Human habitation. These things are liable to severely reduce the human population in the future, especially if we don’t start thinking about how we as a species are going to deal with these problems. But even still, there will still be humans. Sadly, they will probably still be members of exclusive religions, sects, cults, whatever, that enable them to continue to justify killing one another.
The world won’t end until the sun starts fusing lithium and other heavier elements that cause it to expand and engulf the Earth in 4 – 7 billion years. I’m a sci-fi geek, so I entertain crazy notions that some version of CNN, FauxNews and MS/NBC will be covering the death of the Earth for the rest of the human race who will be on other planets around other stars. Humans can either evolve past our current problems. Transcend our politics, capitalism, and our urge toward violence or we can join 99%+ of the other species that have resided on the Earth and go extinct. To me, that would really be a shame.
as Evan expanded-upon Tyler, in the Poetry Association thread: “heartwarming…that those for whom this is a priority continue to make it happen, to be creative about how it expresses, and to persevere in keeping it alive.”
perhaps that love of verse, love of life, could equally be applied to our attachment to the evolution and refinement of world-human-kind; and the healing of the Gaia we have come to know and cherish, those siblings of the forests and richly-populated oceans, the whales and dolphins; and the rivers and wetlands, and bears and raccoons … and all of whom our literature and song abounds.
as LTOR notes, and SPK sings, there is no justification for institutional, and covert, violence … no matter how thick the ‘history’ or propaganda indoctrination. [all sides must embrace a 'religion' and a 'constitution' and an 'ethos' of universal respect, total nonviolence and global harmon-ization.]
whereas, perhaps, 2007/2008 was the Year of Adolescent Electioneering, of shouting out the hidden evils of political correctness, perhaps 2008/2009 is the Year of re-Conciliation, re-Consolidation, in the seeming fascism of the government/military/banking/media machinations … which therefore take the Rothschild-Obama-wave to it’s ‘secure’-ity state heart, and expulse the Rockefeller-Cheney-Bush-wave to the boondocks.
after all, it is the price (ten trillion dollars and counting, seemingly) we have to pay to be free of the old crop of banksters, that the new crop may come in, and THEY AND WE be permitted to evolve again.
evolve into a never-before realized global-alignment, global-cooperative, global-deciding, family of WHOLE HUMAN-KIND.
it may seem the most perverse statement possible, to embrace the unimaginably-grotesque sucking-up-to-the-machine which the Obama-wave is doing … yet it IS an alignment with the current center of Global Consciousness, which is still frightened, grasping, dazed and confused …
for as sure as WE and the Obama-wave are sucking to the current fascist center, as the center moves rapidly, VERY rapidly, in the months ahead … so too will that ever-present sucking sound become like the whole of aerospace hell flying overhead …
as WE, America, Europe, Asia, Australia, Polynesia, Africa, Arabia … ALL rush or are carried to her returned oceanic flood.
and the assumed-waters wet, and the perceived-thunder loud, become the “whole identity” to which Grace recommends us, she whom is the mirror-revealing of each and every individual divine … a thousand million facets revealed … because we were able to recognize the us, the all …
and so the all recognized every me,
and every thee,
a child’s poetry ..
Hi. Just stopped by for a short visit. I’ll keep it to less than 100 words so I won’t disturb your party.
Did you see that 17 year old girl with the soldiers? Recognize me?
By the way, a real party is not the same as a virtual one. In a virtual party you can always skip me. You don’t have to read me.
Dennis is an old patriarch priest so he understands Israel which gave patriarchy its name.
Patriarchs really, really, really believe in God. And that God could be Money, Power, Fear or Terror.
Try Love instead.
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This end of the valley, particularly on this lovely quiet morning, was peaceful, there was no sound of traffic. The hills were behind you and the tallest mountain in this region was over 6,000 feet. This house is surrounded by orchards, bright yellow oranges, and the sky was blue without a single cloud. You could hear the murmur of bees among the flowers in the still quiet morning. The old oak tree behind the house was a great age; the strong winds had broken many dead branches. It has survived many storms, many summers of great heat and the cold winters. Probably it could tell you a lot of stories but this morning it was very quiet, there was no breeze. Everything around you was full of green and bright oranges, yellow and shining, and perfume filled the air — the perfume of jasmine.
This valley is far from all the noise and the bustle of human traffic, of humanity, of all the ugly things that are going on in the world. The orange trees were just beginning to show their fresh young flowers. The scent of it would fill the valley in a week or two and there would be the hum of thousands of bees. It was a peaceful morning and beyond all this lay the sick world, a world that is becoming more and more dangerous, more and more corrupt, vastly dull in search of entertainment, religious and otherwise. The superficiality of existence is thriving.
Krishnamurti to Himself
March 15, 1983
Beautiful picture Tyler. I’m sorry I have to mess it all up with this…
Here’s a little thought experiment. Imagine if you took the city of Philadelphia, and put a fence on all sides but the river. Then you make it impossible for any shipping via the river, coming or going. Make sure the fence is 18 to 30 feet high and topped with razor wire and patrolled by soldiers. Let me just stop here for a second and ask, if you did just this much to Philly, how many weapons do you think they’d be shooting over the wall and how fast? Right… moving on. Now cut off much of their food and water, bring it down to mere subsistence for over a year. We’re talkin’ no cheese steak, none. Now, fly American made fighter/bombers and helicopters over the walls and commence dropping American made bombs on whoever happens to be below in that densely populated area with no real way to get out because they are basically prisoners.
What kind of crime would the citizens of Philadelphia have to commit for this to be an appropriate response? No wait, not all the citizens. Just a group of them. What would a group of citizens in Philadelphia have to do for the whole population to deserve this type of response?
The city of Philadelphia is the same size in land area as the Gaza Strip. Further, Philadelphia is our 6th largest urban area and the population density is very similar to the population density of the Gaza Strip.
What’s happening in Gaza is a war crime. Pure and simple. The Israelis should be ashamed and if there is such a thing as progressive or liberal Israelis, they need to take control of their government and stop this thing. They have elections coming up on Feb 10th. If the citizens of Israel allow the right-wingers to stay in control, they need to just give up any pretense of either Democracy or progressive ideals. There can be no rational excuse for bombing what is essentially an open air prison. Dropping bombs on extremely poor people, women and children, who have first been penned in with fences and razor wire is so blatantly wrong that it staggers the mind.
Brilliant, spk, just brilliant. OjaiTruth.con at http://thelovegovernment.blogstream.com.
It is disappointing to read a statement such as Comment #2. It is also alarming to think that this portrayal of Israel and the Palestinians will be taught to the children of persons writing such distorted views.
A few things to keep in mind:
Why are the Palestinians in the Gaza strip, or the Westbank when the Arab population of the Middle East controls 99.4% of all the land in that region.
If the Arab world is concerned about the Palestinians, why don’t they let them join their societies? That would include the countries of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other countries in the area.
CNN has reported that the total contribution of the Arab world to the welfare of the palestinians is $7 million annually. If the Arab world is so angry at Israel, why aren’t they setting an example by helping instead of hollering?
Most of the money for the survival of the Palestinian people comes from Europe, the United States and Japan.
I’m going to close without referencing the many terrorist acts committed against Israel by the Palestinians.
Is it a crime for a country to defend itself against suicide bombers and rockets by people who are convinced that God wants them to murder the Israeli people?
The Palistinians in Gaza elected Hamas, a known terrorist organization, as their government. Hamas to this day does not recognize Israel’s right to exist.
Here’s a another experiment. Imagine if you took Ventura County, and surrounded it on all side but the ocean, with a half dozen other nations who, for over 60 years, have sworn to attack whenever possible and drive you into the sea. Then they make it impossible to ever co-exist in peace and they betray every treaty that they’ve ever had by supporting terrorist to do the dirty work for them.
As a last resort you build a fence for defense that is 18 to 30 feet high and topped with razor wire and patrolled by soldiers.
Let me just stop here for a second and ask, if you did just this, do you think they’d stop attacking you over the wall?
Right… moving on. Now these nations cut off much of your commerce with the rest of the world for six (6) decades. Now, when you defend yourself every knee-jerk liberal and reactionary in America comes to the defense of this enemy who has sworn to annihilate you. Still every day rockets and fighters and suicide bombers come over and under the walls killing whoever happens to be riding in a bus or going to a restaurant.
What kind of crime did the citizens of Ventura County commit for them to be an attacked for six decades? No wait, not all the citizens. Just a group of them. What would a group of citizens in Ventura County have to do for the whole population to deserve this type of response? The answer, they are Jewish! And they stand up for themselves… And they refuse to be murdered again…
This Ventura County is the same size in land area as Israel. Further, what’s happening in the Middle East is a war crime. Pure and simple. The Arabs should be ashamed – if they knew what shame was – and if there is such a thing as progressive or liberal Arabs, they need to take control of their governments and stop this thing. Fat chance that will ever happen…
Unfortunately there have never been free elections anywhere in the Arab Mid-East.. If the citizens of the Arab world would allow their dictators to stay in control, they need to just give up any pretense of either humanity or progressive ideals. There can be no rational excuse for terrorists bombings of what is essentially a peace loving nation that has given back 90% of all the lands it has conquered every time it has been attacked by its neighbors. Firing rockets and using suicide bombers on peace loving people, women and children, is so blatantly wrong that it staggers the mind.
Dennis,
Thou words art like a Fart;
Full of noise and
An intolerable stench;
Endlessly redundant;
Yet, sadly these fumes,
Sulfuric and repelling,
Signify nothing…
If thou art so lonely a man
that the Ojai Post is thy sole connection
to the human race,
Why not wed a Jock,
become a Doubleday…
And then the Twain shall converse together,
in their own little sphere
of misanthropy and f*scism,
of h*mophobia and anti-sem*tism…
Thus, joyfully, leaving the rest of us
clean air to breathe
unfouled by thy tedious stench
On this Planet called Ojai
Assuming the two anonymous views are actually the same person let me first address the elections point you bring up. If I’m not mistaken, Hamas was democratically elected. At the time several international election monitors ruled the election fair and valid, including the UN and the Carter Center. From that point on the government of Israel began cutting off water, food as well as continuing to building what has been termed an apartheid wall around Gaza and the West Bank.
Your inversion of my logic above was nice, but you let your true feelings slip with the following:
I’m pretty sure we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on most of the rest, but I still haven’t heard any justification for bombing an open air prison with women and children trapped inside.
Terrorism is wrong in all it’s forms. Violence only ever brings yet more violence. Now, it’s true that Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization. But it might be useful to look back at history and realize that the forerunner of the right-wing of Israeli politics, Irgun, was also considered a “terrorist” organization before May 1948. One of the commanders of Irgun, Menachem Begin, even became the sixth prime minister of the state of Israel. Arguably, Israel was brought into being by “terrorist” organizations like Irgun and Lehi or the Stern Gang as the Brits called them. When Israel was recognized by the UN in 1948, members of the Irgun formed the Israel Defense Forces that are currently fighting in Gaza.
This current Israeli violence is an act of political cynicism. The current Israeli government, being tenuously controlled by the Kadima party, chose this period between US Presidents, during the holidays to begin bombing the Gaza Strip for a very specific and Machiavellian reason. The purpose of this military action is to bolster the prospects of the Kadima party in the upcoming election on Feb 10th. Who is controlling the Israeli military? Acting Prim Minister Tzipi Livni and good old Ehud Barak, both formerly of the ultra right-wing Likud party. Through whatever byzantine political machinations Livni followed Ehud Ulmert, Ehud Barak when Ariel Sharon left the Likud Party and started the supposedly centrist Kadima party in 2005. I say supposedly because it would be like the neo-con, hawkish, pro-Iraq war Republicans joining with a couple of the corporatist, “moderate”, pro-Iraq war Republicans and splitting from the born-again Christian, hawkish, pro-Iraq war, pro-Armageddon Republicans to form a new “centrist” party. Ridiculous! Anyway, Kadima has pretty much been a train wreck ever since Sharon slipped into a coma. Livni is running for Prime Minister because her Kadima party is too weak to form a government out of the ashes of the disgraced and corrupt Ulmert government. The rectal polyp masquerading as a human being, Benjamin Netanyahu, is once again the Likud candidate for PM running against her. When the morons who make up Hamas resumed lobbing largely ineffective “rockets” over the wall into Southern Israel and occasionally actually causing casualties, Netanyahu started getting traction against Livni and Ulmert’s wrecked government and therefore against the Kadima party. So Livni and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak decided to have a little bombing to show that they were just as bad-ass as Netanyahu.
According to The New York Times tonight, four Israeli civilians and one soldier have been killed since this whole thing started. The four civilians were killed by the rocket attacks. In contrast, upwards of 500 Palestinians have been killed. So for each Israeli killed, 100 Palestinians have died, many women and children.
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spk- it’s at least 2 vs 1 (i am not another view or one more).
i am one who will defend israel’s right to exist and self-defend till the end of days.
spk- you seem to have a keen understanding of the political situation.
but do you really have a human understanding of the fact that 67% of European jewry was killed from the period 1932-1945, 90% of polish jews were killed during the 3rd reich (fortunately my parents survived)?
here is a suggestion- go see “Defiance”- new movie only playing in LA and NY right now but sure to come to a closer cinema soon.
have a nice day
What Should We Do About Mr. Johnson?
Sixty-odd years ago, Mr. Johnson suffered a terrible tragedy. His whole family was senselessly murdered by a band of thugs, in a city far from here.
We were compassionate then as we are now. Recall how we offered to take Mr. Johnson in. We gave him a sweet little farm in the east end. It would be a safe haven, a homeland where Mr. Johnson could rebuild from the tragedy that had befallen him.
Unfortunately, the farm was owned and ran at the time by the Roberts family. Recall how the city council exercised its power of eminent domain and evicted the Roberts from a corner of their farm. Many people disagreed with that action at the time.
In the sixty-odd years since, this situation has caused nothing but heartache here in our valley. The Roberts have never yet been able to resettle anywhere. They have been living in a tent on the border of their old farm, on land owned by their cousins. Every time they try to establish a home, they have been pushed back by Mr. Johnson.
True, to this day many members of the Roberts family refuse to accept Mr. Johnson’s ownership of their old farm. They have always insisted it was theirs, and claimed they were never fairly compensated. And the Roberts have found few defenders of the many acts of vandalism that Mr. Johnson has documented over the years.
But for his part, Mr. Johnson has hardly been a model of restrained behavior. He has constantly expanded his farm, planting trees and putting outbuildings on the Roberts farm, pushing the Roberts family further and further back every year.
The city’s knee-jerk backing of Mr. Johnson throughout this time has not helped. Many have argued that if the city would simply stop backing Mr. Johnson every time he further expanded his farm or encroached on his neighbors, this situation would long ago have resolved itself amicably. (Of course, it can’t be ignored that Mr. Johnson has been very savvy. He has been a very large contributor to the campaigns of all of the incumbent councilmembers, and he has been known to pour large amounts of money into campaigns to defeat candidates who do not express strong support for him. He also long ago hired the city attorney’s law firm for his private work, and put his money in the mayor’s family bank. Many have argued over the years that this explains why the city has so consistently refused to censor Mr. Johnson over the years, while it has always been quick to highlight and condemn every alleged act of vandalism from the Roberts side.)
In any event, between the Roberts vandalism and the Johnson encroachment, and all the cross-accusations and mutual provocations, it is understandable that many of us have thrown up our hands at this situation.
But now, the situation has really become intolerable. It turns out that last year, Mr. Johnson locked the remaining members of the Roberts family in a small woodshed, and refused to let them out. When one of the family members was able to scratch a hole big enough to fit his arm through the wall, apparently he threw a rock that almost hit one of Mr. Johnson’s kids on the rear.
In retaliation, Mr. Johnson lit the woodshed on fire, with the Roberts family still inside.
The paper has remained silent. True, it reported that one of the Roberts threw a rock at Mr. Johnson’s son. But it failed to report Mr. Johnson’s imprisonment of the Roberts in the woodshed, or his act of arson, and even editorialized that Mr. Johnson would be justified in defending himself from this type of rock-throwing however he saw fit.
So many of us are sick to death of this happening in our community. Mr. Johnson’s case was compelling when he came here. But at what point has he gone too far?
Are we really going to just stand by as Mr. Johnson burns the entire Roberts family alive?
What are we going to do about Mr. Johnson?
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Brilliant, #10!
(whoever you are)
#10, #11, #12…
You all prove that a little knowledge is a dangerous tool in the hands of a simple mind… If you are going to attempt to create historical analogies, please take the time to study history – and not some superficial approximation you have garnered from watching a few headlines…
All you are doing is demonstrating your own woeful ignorance.
see this before it is censored
“The context is that there was (initially) a peaceful protest in the West Bank about the Gaza incursion. The protesters were primarily school age kids. The IDF opened fire on them. Ms. Arraf got between the bullets and the protesters.
There was a significantly longer video, but Google has already pulled it. They’ll pull this one as soon as it gets reported, I’m sure. Google has been pulling all footage not published by the Israeli ministries of information.
Footage of the UN school bombing that killed dozens today, pulled. Footage of the bombs hitting other UN schools…pulled. Footage of IDF standing on armored vehicles and picking off targets in the street…pulled.
All footage released by the IDF…still there. They have their own channel. Propaganda comes in the places you least expect.”
then give us the link to the IDF
“If your unbelievably small and overcrowded land was being terrorized, pulverized by bombs from the world’s 4th largest military, and your borders were closed; if your house was not safe, mosque (church) not safe, school not safe, street not safe, UN refugee camp not safe…[and if your UN schools were not safe...]Where would you go,…”
International Solidarity Movement
A little excerpt from a book written in 1986, But clearly getting closer to be very prophetic.
“At this late stage in the world, too much is at stake for metaphysical word games, philosophical and religious half-truths and psychological upmanship. We haven”t much linear time left to stand atop Da Shan in conscious living fact. So we are talking absolute reality now. Truth. Fact. More than that, we are saying something that everyone is going to find is true for himself, all alone, if only when the physical body stops responding to his every whim and is put aside in the experience the world calls death.
…..At this moment, civilization is a little like a field of cotton beginning to bloom: first a boll here, another there, then more and more until one morning we look out and the entire field is abloom. Or, it is like popcorn popping. One kernel pops, then another and another until there is a veritable explosion of the rest. Hard pressed, shaken together and running over, mankind is coming into a conscious knowledge of a subjective sense of things which is certain to alter the course of civilization.
The first ‘blooms’ have been the prophets, the seers, the avatars, the insightful, those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Now the field is turning white with the ability to perceive subjectively. Confusion abounds at the unrecognized newness of it all. Now that subjectivism is here, no one knows what to do with it. The major divisions of human activity have not made the necessary adjustments to allow the missile the freedom to change course. Neither education, government, religion nor metaphysics has made the full turn demanded of them–and the time is short…….”
Grace
Here is a little more, since I guess that was probably too small of a clip…seemed out of context…Without posting the whole dang book…Let’s try this:
“imagine the missile of collective civilization nearing its target, ready to receive its final redirection for the next and perhaps last phase of the trip-not unlike the “smart missile” that sees the target ahead and directs the internal mechanism to drive itself straight to the destination. For mankind, the destination is a rediscovery of simple subjectivism, a new mark in non-space and non-time, a fulfillment of the Original Purpose for tangible life on earth.
As far as the relationship between time and space and their interconnections to tangible life goes, the end-game’s corrective information is presently being received within the quantum body of civilization. This information is intended to adjust and correct society’s major systems for their final movement as mankind comes to discern the true nature of things-particularly time, space, matter and awareness (life). In many ways science-the vanguard of human wisdom-has nearly reached that comprehension already.
What does this final corrective feel like to you and me here in the old-world scene of things? It comes as a new clock turned on within us-as new sensitivity; an increasing intuitiveness; a new perception within us-as certain unfamiliar anxieties, disquiets, stresses and discomforts-as inexplicable fear and depression. Anyone can look at the human scene and see the lids popping off here and there with acts of insanity and people trying to satisfy impossible urges.
Who is to say what the northern geese feel before they assemble to make the trek south? Or the butterflies before they start their long upwind search for their ancestral birthplace? I know that dramatic course-altering input is presently arriving within mankind; the sensitive feel it especially. This arrival is not unlike the way the ability to perceive color has developed in mankind in recent millennia. We are told this sense is one of the latest developments of the human brain-but what is presently happening is at a deeper level of mentation. What is it? The arrival of the truly subjective nature of mentation-quantum man’s capacity for ever greater introspective self-examination.”
An entirely new concept of the Self…
Grace
It is only confusing for those who desperately want it to be. It is frankly sickening how torture becomes morally muddy and confusing, when our government is doing it. How indiscriminate bombing of innocent women and children is so confusing, because the side we are supposed to like is doing it.
As far as ignorance, if there is some knowledge I currently lack which would convince me that it is a good thing to murder these children who are locked down in a virtual prison: I can say only that I am blessed in my ignorance. “Knowledge” like that I can do without.
(I know what that kind of “knowledge” is, by the way. It always consists of historical examples of others who committed atrocities in achieving some end, which is proffered as perfectly admirable after the victims who would complain most are dead. The perpetrators commission history books which explain how much worse life would now be for everyone on the planet if the atrocities had not been committed. Study away, Dharma, show us your erudite scholarship, but that conclusion will always be suspect.)
Dharma, MK, Another View … what do you say now, that the Israeli army is bombing schools?
As SPK asked: How do you justify bombing women and children?
What place has pure slaughter and barbarism?
Let me suggest that for those of us who want Israel to survive and blossom, this can only be condemned.
It is time to call for a new Israel, one that separates itself from this state terrorism and endless war.
Talking ethics or morality on this subject is of course just pissing into the wind. But consider this:
For those hardliners who are looking for the standard American-style narrative, that says – once all the Palestinians are dead or reduced to a mere shadow stalking a refugee camp – that says wow, children, bow down to the brave soldiers who vanquished that horrible threat so now we can blossom in peace … the hawks have had sixty years to achieve that narrative. They have failed.
Time to try something new?
Ethics, morality, crimes against humanity aside: It ain’t working.
(If you think it is working, set your aspirations a little higher. Its not being a “glass-half-empty” sort to do so. Don’t delude yourself into thinking that a couple of drops of piss evaporating at the bottom of the glass is half a glass of anything you would want to drink.)
Living on Borrowed Time in a Stolen Land
by Gilad Atzmon / January 4th, 2009
Communicating with Israelis may leave one bewildered. Even now when the Israeli Air Force is practicing murder in broad daylight of hundreds of civilians, elderly persons, women and children, the Israeli people manage to convince themselves that they are the real victims in this violent saga.
The circumstances that led to the Israeli Palestinian conflict are well hidden within their culture. Traces of pre-1948 Palestinian civilisation on the land had been wiped out. Not only the Nakba, the 1948 ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians, is not part of the Israeli curriculum, it is not even mentioned or discussed in any Israeli official or academic forum.
story continues
Because this thread started with Something based in Light of Truth, I do not feel I am off subject here. Finding the True Identity and Living It, as far as I can tell, is going to be the only genuine and lasting way to bring peace to earth. If we do not change course soon, it will continue as is and get nothing but worse. It is time to wake up. Could we be Life ITSELF rather than the recipient of it? Isn’t it just possible that ISNESS, REALITY, All That Is Here and Now is the seer “seeing” and being the seen? As the old wise ones say, it is all about discovering the Oneness of Life. Separate sense of self living in an objective world is a false notion. Although it appears to be this way, it is not this way. It is our job to find out ‘who we really are’ then we share the Good News with the rest of ourself and then the world scene will begin to reflect the Beauty of this Light of Truth discovered. The answer is in in finding our True Identity.
I am reluctant to send this, but the gods have nudged me to do, I shall be brave.
Grace
…and not some superficial approximation you have garnered from watching a few headlines…
All you are doing is demonstrating your own woeful ignorance.
Sorry you feel that way, Dharma. But I respectfully beg to differ. Many of us HAVE “studied history” for quite some time (and then some)…
Wish I had more time to engage here, but my views are well stated in another thread (about the horror of the border crossings between Palestine and Israel). In a nutshell – I feel that Israel (who I used to be a staunch supporter of twenty years ago) has MUCH to answer for in the last few decades and the world should not (and will not) turn a blind eye to obvious crimes against humanity. And, in my opinion, bringing up the Holocaust (of which I have studied more than the average non-Jewish American, even spending one month of a vacation doing volunteer work at the camps of Auschwitz and Majdanek) – should NOT cause those of us who can see both sides of the tragegy to “tip toe” around the current crimes of the State of Israel. To do so would be against everything I stand for.
I think #10′s analogy has a lot more truth to it than your knee-jerk reaction….
…(about the horror of the border crossings between Palestine and Israel).
I meant to write between the West Bank and Israel…
Anon #17-19(I think they are all the same person),
The book you are quoting sounds interesting, but it has an Armageddonist feel from the excerpts you posted. I might be misunderstanding this book, and if I am please disregard, but I do not believe we are on anything like a short time line until some kind of end.
The Earth is 4+ billion years old and our sun is projected to keep fusing hydrogen in a suitable way for life on Earth to continue for another 4 billion years at least. Homo Sapiens are anywhere from 100,000 to 250,000 years old, depending on which scientists you consult. For most of recorded history humans have been engaging in vile acts of war and violence. There is even some evidence that violence is hardwired into our evolution. That doesn’t make it good, but it helps explain the repeated occurrence of these atrocities throughout our history.
The idea that we are in some kind of end times or Armageddon scenario actually enables violence. Indeed, this horrendous display by the right-wingers of the Israeli government are eerily similar to the fervent hopes of the psycho Christian Zionism of the extreme right-wing in this country promulgated by the likes of Pastor John Hagee and others in the evangelical world. This rapture/end times mentality actually encourages these acts and wars because people are able to continue to fool each other that the end is neigh. The biggest threat to the continued existence of our species is our own inability to overcome this and other behaviors.
Big things are happening. Climate change is real and very likely past the point of no return. Other environmental onslaughts are occurring as a direct result of Human habitation. These things are liable to severely reduce the human population in the future, especially if we don’t start thinking about how we as a species are going to deal with these problems. But even still, there will still be humans. Sadly, they will probably still be members of exclusive religions, sects, cults, whatever, that enable them to continue to justify killing one another.
The world won’t end until the sun starts fusing lithium and other heavier elements that cause it to expand and engulf the Earth in 4 – 7 billion years. I’m a sci-fi geek, so I entertain crazy notions that some version of CNN, FauxNews and MS/NBC will be covering the death of the Earth for the rest of the human race who will be on other planets around other stars. Humans can either evolve past our current problems. Transcend our politics, capitalism, and our urge toward violence or we can join 99%+ of the other species that have resided on the Earth and go extinct. To me, that would really be a shame.
as Evan expanded-upon Tyler, in the Poetry Association thread: “heartwarming…that those for whom this is a priority continue to make it happen, to be creative about how it expresses, and to persevere in keeping it alive.”
perhaps that love of verse, love of life, could equally be applied to our attachment to the evolution and refinement of world-human-kind; and the healing of the Gaia we have come to know and cherish, those siblings of the forests and richly-populated oceans, the whales and dolphins; and the rivers and wetlands, and bears and raccoons … and all of whom our literature and song abounds.
as LTOR notes, and SPK sings, there is no justification for institutional, and covert, violence … no matter how thick the ‘history’ or propaganda indoctrination. [all sides must embrace a 'religion' and a 'constitution' and an 'ethos' of universal respect, total nonviolence and global harmon-ization.]
whereas, perhaps, 2007/2008 was the Year of Adolescent Electioneering, of shouting out the hidden evils of political correctness, perhaps 2008/2009 is the Year of re-Conciliation, re-Consolidation, in the seeming fascism of the government/military/banking/media machinations … which therefore take the Rothschild-Obama-wave to it’s ‘secure’-ity state heart, and expulse the Rockefeller-Cheney-Bush-wave to the boondocks.
after all, it is the price (ten trillion dollars and counting, seemingly) we have to pay to be free of the old crop of banksters, that the new crop may come in, and THEY AND WE be permitted to evolve again.
evolve into a never-before realized global-alignment, global-cooperative, global-deciding, family of WHOLE HUMAN-KIND.
it may seem the most perverse statement possible, to embrace the unimaginably-grotesque sucking-up-to-the-machine which the Obama-wave is doing … yet it IS an alignment with the current center of Global Consciousness, which is still frightened, grasping, dazed and confused …
for as sure as WE and the Obama-wave are sucking to the current fascist center, as the center moves rapidly, VERY rapidly, in the months ahead … so too will that ever-present sucking sound become like the whole of aerospace hell flying overhead …
as WE, America, Europe, Asia, Australia, Polynesia, Africa, Arabia … ALL rush or are carried to her returned oceanic flood.
and the assumed-waters wet, and the perceived-thunder loud, become the “whole identity” to which Grace recommends us, she whom is the mirror-revealing of each and every individual divine … a thousand million facets revealed … because we were able to recognize the us, the all …
and so the all recognized every me,
and every thee,
a child’s poetry ..
Hi. Just stopped by for a short visit. I’ll keep it to less than 100 words so I won’t disturb your party.
Did you see that 17 year old girl with the soldiers? Recognize me?
By the way, a real party is not the same as a virtual one. In a virtual party you can always skip me. You don’t have to read me.
Dennis is an old patriarch priest so he understands Israel which gave patriarchy its name.
Patriarchs really, really, really believe in God. And that God could be Money, Power, Fear or Terror.
Try Love instead.