Jock Doubleday sent an email out to 65 recipients with the following note. I have decided to reply here, because (1) it is poor etiquette to expose peoples’ emails to a forced conversation and (2) accusations of censorship deserve a reply.
Dear Tyler,
As my comment-addendum on Sally’s post shows, I’m continuing to try to do my end-run against censorship on the Post — specifically censorship of certain political ideas — a censorship begun and encouraged by its editor.
Cheers,
Jock Doubleday
P.S. I’ll get to your two emails today. I haven’t had a chance to open them, and I suspect they’ll require a time-consuming response. I’ve been busy working on a music video for my song about revolution, the lyrics to which will have been translated into over 60 languages by mid-November. The song endeavors to prepare people for what’s coming, and it is my hope that it will give them courage in the face of an oppression more brutal than any seen in recorded history. 800 U.S. FEMA detention camps are in place. And with U.S. soldiers already defying posse comitatus, it’s just a matter of weeks before martial law — the prize objective of the Overclass — is officially declared.
Dear Jock -
I have been very clear and entirely consistent on my moderation policy. Individual authors can moderate their own posts. My personal preference is not to delete comments, and rather address them head-on. It is very rare when I delete a comment, and is almost exclusively due to spam or to extreme violation of the terms of comments which are printed at the bottom of every blog post. I tend to be very lenient with the commenters, because I feel that the collective community does a good job in pushing back. I have deleted some negative comments towards you at your request.
I have not censored you. Every one of your posts is still available to all site visitors: www.ojaipost.com/jock.shtml
I have suspended your author privileges, which I hesitantly did after multiple attempts to privately address the tone and content of your posts, most of which centered around your increasing distance from Ojai-related issues and stories. I would add that what attracted me to you as an author is clearly stated in your author bio and your initial post, neither of which bears any resemblance to what you have repeatedly chosen to post about, going back two years. Further, you took our private conversations public, which did factor into my decision.
I have not banned you from the site, and you are welcome to participate in all conversations on the post, within the guidelines posted above. In fact, its been an hour six minutes since your last comment.
I have encouraged you to start your own Ojai community blog focused on the issues you feel are most relevant to the Ojai community. Get it up and going, with multiple authors, and multiple entries, and I will be happy to link to it.
Regards,
Tyler
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Since when does being no longer welcome on an invitation-only blog equal censorship?!? Bad form.
I, for one agree with Tyler’s move to keep Jock from being an author on the Ojai Post. By every standard Jock is an emotionally disturbed not so young man who sees conspiratorial behavior everywhere and is often prone to exhibit racist, anti-Semitic, and other examples of hate-filled speech as he pushes his warped agenda.
What every one must also remember is that the Ojai Post is a private website, not a public access news station. If someone doesn’t like the rules (aka Jock Doubleday) they are free to take their postings elsewhere.
This site exists only because a private individual (Tyler) created it as a forum. Anyone who uses Tyler’s site has an obligation to follow his rules. This site is akin to Tyler’s own home.
If you want to converse inside Tyler’s home then you need to have enough basic civility that you follow the few but basic guidelines Tyler has set up for being in his house.
Jock’s claim of censorship has no validity whatsoever.
For that matter, Tyler has been gracious enough to tolerate a lot of “whack jobs” using his site to push their own and often very strange views of reality. But even that is Tyler’s choice, not ours.
Again, if you don’t like the rules, go elsewhere.
I am honoured that there is someone like Jock trying to save us all by passing on the information that is hidden from us daily through the constant manipulation of the elite through the media and education.
He is far from emotionally disturbed, he is one of the most stable people I know.
I get so frustrated when I read nonesense people have written when they really have no idea what they are talking about.
They have closed minds and cold hearts.
Here is a man who through nothing other than his love and compassion for others is trying to do something good, why would you not listen???
Please dont compare all revolutionaries or consiracy theorists as we are labelled to David Icke, although I think he is awesome he also does speak jibberish sometimes.
I dont know why with the evidence in front of you you still dont get it, heres just a small reminder
HAARP
F.E.M.A
RFID chip
911 Inside job (Fake terror)
Chemtrails
Theft
Druging
Poison foods
Aspartame
Mind control
Ritalin
Dodgy vaccines
etc etc etc
Peace and love
All~ways with Intent
PTTP
OWN/NWO/NOW
Thank you, Tyler, for addressing this.
didn’t see that other comment – obviously there are 2 different Lisa’s!
three days and counting, Tyler, Jock …
let’s make ‘em count!
and Dvorah, evan, Sally, Brian, Demitri, DK, Leslie, Didj, Chris Foley, Suza, Gay, Michael, Heather, Leigh, Brook, Kenley, Robert, Raymond, Dennis, Kira, Howard, Lisa, Steve, Laura, Kit, Robin, Chris, Jason … Goddess Moon, all.
not sure what friend actor/playwright Jock’s strategy is — but I think it has much to do with echoing the emotional sentiments of our world today — particularly those without a voice — these last three days of (necessary, real, long overdue) spiritual cathartic release.
certainly Jock’s news about the unethical banking, political, cultural Corporate State farce is usually right-on, and again much needed and overdue. his style isn’t mine — where I usually prefer to share cultural and artistic stories to help myself and my world along in our enlightening — yet I will not say that he is not helping us to realize the emotional tsunami we are about to be pushed through.
and I cannot fault Tyler’s and individual Ojai Post author’s editorial styles either. I have had many many comments which did not make it through either the server or the editors … it is cyberspace after all. and I don’t even want to begin to think about the load and responsibility that Tyler carries in managing this rainbow CyberShip of the Ojai Post.
kudos to Tyler and Jock, and all around.
we have reached the summit, All Souls Weekend, and Guy Fawkes Day (‘to boot’) to heighten the frenzy!
as we say “goodbye” forever to who we were, and that old world of secret government, and the embarassing immaturity of Ojai and America and all of us.
as Dick Cheney and George Bush get the ‘boot’, courtesy Global Consciousness (yes the Rothschilds, the UK, Europe, China, Japan, Israel, the Middle East, Africa, Latin American, Polynesia — who ISN’T lending a hand in our economic enlightenment?) and You and I … and the Ojai Post!
I just want to celebrate!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZsppOw2Mxk
with and for all our sacred relations …
Tyler,
Most of what you’ve said is reasonable except that Millennium Twain’s posts are usually not related to Ojai so I am a bit confused as to why you would suspend the privileges of one and not the other.
Hi Tanya -
I don’t have a specific criteria, but I would offer that tone was part of the consideration, as were multiple private attempts to dialogue.
Besides, I like the fact the Post is bilingual.
I deleted the comments from “Jerard” because that person has already been banned for blatant racist and wholly inappropriate posts. It has nothing to do with censorship. This person continues to post under many different psudonyms. Go away, “Jerard”.
It’s been a busy day/week/month/year for me. I don’t post often because of 1. the time it takes and 2. the time it takes to respond to comments from those who obviously invest a lot of time to the Ojai Post. I did find it interesting to see emails in my inbox referring to censorship on the Ojai Post and even more interesting having to fish out an email from Rinaldo Bruttico from my junk mail folder.
I don’t want conflicts from the community post showing up in my personal email account and certainly not showing up in my junk mail. If the world is going to hell in a handbasket, I certainly don’t think Tyler is trying to keep anyone from knowing about it. I would really like to read a post where Jock apologizes to Tyler and everyone else for his accusations and for exposing peoples email accounts. Jock, if you’re feeling victimized, please start your own blog and anyone who wants to contribute can be welcome to it. Just don’t beat up on Tyler.
Jock represents what frightens people, and that is the inconvenient and uncomfortable: exactly what they need to hear. To censor him, punish him for his writing, is nothing short of cowardly…but, fortunately for him you are proving he is right. I’ve read through his writings, and other offerings here too…his are the only that held my interest, and it’s a shame to see them go for no good reason.
Please don’t kill the messenger.
Odd coincidence that two Post authors left on the same day — one voluntarily, one involuntarily
This is so absurd…
The way I see it, Jock was “fired” (by someone who was well within his rights to do so) for not living up to “a contract”, not following the rules, poor performance and a crappy attitude.
Now I have just had to witness 7 friends (with mortgages to pay and kids to feed) who were “let go” and it must be the most unbearably heart wrenching and terrifying predicament to find oneself in. But the grace under pressure I have seen by these people has just blown my mind…Jock, on the other hand, has chosen to go all intellectually postal on all of us and it is pathetic, cringe-worthy and makes it all the more obvious just how much of a lack of prudence, judgement and credibility he actually possesses. And publically behaving like a spoiled child should give even his cheerleaders (as few as they are) pause.
And censorship? People who throw this term around so blithely should bone up on their Russian and South American history. They should think about the lives of heros like Aung San Su Kwi or Nelson Mandela or authors around the world who have risked their freedom (or even their lives!) publishing underground material. They should contemplate the miserable realities that Afghani women have to endure, living life from under heavy veils and burquas and having been silenced from the day they were born….
Horrible censorhip does exist around the world. But Jock Doubleday (who has his own website and can easily start another one, has been graciously been given the right to continue to participate on the OP via the comment section, and who has no qualms about standing on street corners nearly nude to get “his message” to the masses) is most certainly not one of its victims!
Let’s get real here!
Long Time Ojai Resident:
The Rain Applauds Your Comment!
can’t wait to see Jock’s blog
it will have a 9/11 “truth” thread
and a thread about the Federal Reserve
and one about how the world is trying to censor Jock
and one thread for immiment martial law — this will have one of those clocks that tells how many years and days it has been since Jock first declared that martial law is immiment
Wait…Tyler, did you say bilingual? Is that Gibberish and English?
Censorship?
It’s unclear to me what the circumstances are with regard to Jock and the Post. Did Tyler ask Jock to resign as an author while being welcome as a commenter? What difference would that make since Jock can still express his views as he is doing now? Prevent Jock from using pictures and graphics? Save money and computer space? Prevent Jock from introducing his favorite topics? Satisfy Jock’s opponents?
Did Jock himself resign? If I recall Jock’s farewell at the breakfast table, he wasn’t all that clear about the change in his status vis a vis the Post.
Has Jock been off-topic? How could he be if he was the one introducing the topic?
Are there some topics that are ruled out by reason of the commenters’ guidelines? Are there authors’ guidelines? If so, what are they and are they available to the general reader?
Has Jock or his threads (Jock as author or commenter) been in violation of any of the commenter rules (I don’t know if there are published author rules)?
1. Off topic. I fail to understand how any of Jock’s material that I have seen is off topic. It seems vitally important and crucial to Ojai with very real and immediate effects to Ojai.
2. Defamatory. I know of no instance where Jock has attempted to defame, slander or ruin the good name or reputation of anyone.
3. Obscene. I don’t know of anything Jock has presented that would meet any reasonable definition of obscene. He once posed as the Jesus of 911 but he was partially dressed and appropriately for the type of art he was portraying.
4. Abusive. I don’t believe any court operating under the premise of freedom of speech would fine Jock abusive, even though his opponents might find their ideas or feelings “abused.”
5. Threatening. Has Jock ever threatened anyone with harm or loss? Not that I know of.
6. Invasion of privacy. I think an email sent to Tyler was cited as improper but I don’t think it was called “invasion of privacy.” I am not clear about those circumstances either. In any event, the email is republished here. If it was an invasion of privacy, why further the damage?
In conclusion, I can find no justification under the commenter rules for why Jock would be asked to relinquish his privilege of authorship. As I said, I am not privy to author rules, if there be such.
If the matter stands as I understand it now, I would have to conclude that there has been some kind of censorship. Without more information and detailed discovery, my conclusion has to be tentative.
To bring in emotional likes or dislikes, or to focus on one supposed predictive mistake is more off topic and defamatory than anything I have seen Jock publish.
The case for or against the presence of censorship must be decided with reason and love. We are after all, a species of beings called femina sapiens.
This is also beside the point, but I personally like Jock; and I happen to agree with most but not all of his views. The same with MT. The same with Tyler. The same with any one of you. It’s called freedom of speech in a free society.
I am sorry that Jock Doubleday is not an author on the Ojai Post. I believe we are all the worse off for it. I believe the Post has made a mistake and the reasons Tyler has given publicly are weak, and they don’t hold water for the very serious principle of freedom which is involved.
I could be wrong and I will stand to be corrected; but by reasonable evidence, not speculation or emotionalism.
I myself have never been censored by the Post although I have used a lot of space and have said some outrageous things. There have been some who have attempted to shut me up and probably many more who are in agreement but Tyler has always been supportive of my free speech.
Someone asked why Jock and not MT? Tyler’s response on that point was also weak. If I were braver and less foolish, I would say why Jock and not Dennis? If it can happen to someone of Jock’s caliber and expression, it can happen to anyone of us. The case of course is entirely different with someone who is obviously violating the guidelines, and the evidence supports the decision of the manager.
Private property is a two edged sword. As a commenter pointed out, Tyler owns the Post and can fire who he wants to. Yes, under patriarchal law that is true. But is the patriarchal paradigm the whole truth? Is there something else going on?
I can understand LTOR’s anger and sadness at seven of her friends’ losses but to take it out on Jock is misplaced. The anger needs to be directed at the real source which is the lying and thieving system of patriarchal rule which we all live under, and which Jock helps to expose at his own expense and time.
Jock is doing us a service much as we resent him for bringing us the truth. According to another commenter, don’t kill the messenger. The Ojai Post would do itself a favor and restore its former reputation by bringing back Jock as an author.
WOW!!!
I visited this site to leave some positive support and love to my friend Jock and upon revisiting I am now overwhelemed by the negativity in these comments
you are vultures!!! lol
Believe it or not we are all in this together, Im in UK and everywhere all over the world we see horrendous things happening daily, most are out of our control.
All Jock and others like myself are trying to do is show people there are other things going on that we dont see.
You cannot dispute these things are happening and if you cant then Im afraid your ‘reality’ is more questionable than ours.
You say about people putting thier lives at risk speaking out about the ‘tabboo’ that is laughable to think that people like Jock and I dont!!!
What traditions other countries keep is in that countries and the peoples control, they need to change them laws but our interest in other countries is more on the lines of….
The babies dying and being born with deformaties because of the depleted Uranium your government dumped there, or is that lies???
The suffering and death caused by a ‘false flag war’
You know what, Im not even going to continue here because it truly will fall on deaf ears.
I would like to say though, this site overall is pretty neat but I wouldnt enjoy being a part of a network where your freedom of speech is stripped away with a delete button!!!
Jock will succeed as we all will in this ‘QUEST’ to save lives.
Truth is not only violated by falsehood… it may be equally outraged by silence
~namaste~
oh, heartbreak! it’s over!!
still …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPKDZRluAs
Oh Clint, you make me wish I were a woman. I’d never let you go.
Obama is the better man?
Ooh, an opportunity to chime in and Monday morning QB Tyler! Who can resist?
As a frequent anonymous poster who believes this Ojai Post is one of the Ojai essentials, I’ll give my advice to Tyler publicly:
1. For a little while there, Jock and MT were covering the homepage with repeated big huge posts on these similar topics. MT is still here; Jock apparently is banned.
Solution? Ask them both (publicly if you want) to please shorten the portion of their posts that appear on the homepage, so that those interested can see it and follow the jump, but everything else is not crowded out. (This would be good advice for Howard Smith and Stop the Trucks too.) In general, there is certainly a better way to guide authors when to take up more real estate on the homepage and when not to. And, make it a policy that authors should not post on the same topic more than once a month, or every two weeks, or whatever, absent extraordinary circumstances.
2. Jock and MT’s posts seem to get quite a few comments. That should be reason enough to keep them. On the other hand, when the large list of other authors are as a group barely matching the output of Jock and MT together, and Jock and MT keep posting the same stuff and talking to the same people, there is a risk that the Post becomes a venue just for them. Not good.
Solution? See (1) above. Second, get on your other Post authors to use their voice here a little more – and/or get some new authors.
3. Frankly, Jock has been the far more interesting and novel (not to mention intelligible) of the two. MT posts the same gibberish over and over. As the “benevolent dictator” of the Post, banning one and not the other unnecessarily risks appearing arbitrary and heavy-handed. It also sets a bad precedent – you are going to hear more clamor from the trolling section to ban others, and they’ll use this as the example. Why go there?
I’d hold out the olive branch to Jock and invite him back, under guidelines. (2 to 1 he Groucho Marx’s your invitation anyway and starts his own blog.) Drop the authors who are inactive – they really aren’t “authors” if they haven’t posted a single thing in more than six months. Put them somewhere on the back nine as “past contributors” and bring in some new blood.
Its a fact that the brains, heart and soul of Ojai expresses itself on the Ojai Post, not on those other mediums (print and online, need I say more?) that have in some cases been around longer. You didn’t get here by editing and/or banning authors – that’s the tactic that reduced the relevance of the other outlets.
Thanks, all, for your thoughts. I have tried to keep the door open for Jock by using words like “hiatus” and “suspend”, not “fired” and “banned”, while encouraging his participation in the comments.
I was also quite clear in private conversations that the Post does not have to be the ONLY outlet for one’s writings. I maintain other blogs, and often post content there that is not appropriate for The Ojai Post. Jock has the opportunity to do the same.
If he wants to start an Ojai community blog called OjaiTruth.com, and continue to post in the same manner he has been posting here, then I am wholeheartedly supportive of that. He can set the “tone” that he wants, he can add the authors he wants, he can invest thousands of hours and dollars to build the audience he wants.
And with that outlet established for the subject matter on which he is solely focused, perhaps it would be a good time for us to revisit his author status here. Perhaps he can post here with stories that are more in alignment with how he initially represented himself and WHY he loves Ojai, and not just the constant drumbeat of fear of what will DESTROY the Ojai he loves.
Jock’s message to us is not just important, it’s urgent.
Too bad his tone and attitude promote so much drama.
What is your objective here Jock? Drama? Ego? Or, is it your objective to effectively deliver your message??
Do you really think there is time to waste with this ridiculous hullabaloo?
If you want people to listen to you, stop encouraging them to resist you.
Thanks to all, especially Tyler, for clarifying. I see I have been unbalanced. I had my lawyer hat on and was too “reasonable.” The clarity received is that the Post is about a tone, not rationality. Excellent! Exactly!
Then run with it. An author guideline would state the tone you want and what authors need to do to comply. Tyler becomes then a musical conductor as opposed to a “benevolent dictator.” Tone has to do with balance and harmony, and if an author is taking up too much space, for example, this “tone” can be off key, and the director can explain in reasonable terms why this is so. If the community of peers also backs up the director you have a reasonable tone that most authors would accept.
Tone is also known as emotion. As a person gets known in a physical community, she or he doesn’t even have to open their mouth and you know what she or he is emotionally going to say or not say. Here, the reliance is more on words but a person’s name (even anonymous) already has a tone to it so readers can either tune in or tune out and not waste time. Hence, the suggestion above about shortness on the home page is helpful.
Me? I’d read Jock or MT first because I resonate with their personal tone. That is not to say I do not resonate with others. I do. In fact, I like the “tone” of Ojai herself. She sounds good to me. Visually and kinesthetically, she is a Valley, a sort of resonating amphitheater where resonance and dissonance are both pleasing to my ear.
I didn’t know that Tyler also hosted other sites. Are these published here?
The tone of the Post has a liberal ring. Jock leans toward the radical so there is a dissonance between Jock and many readers. It’s not really in the reason area; it’s something you instinctively feel. Unless you have some kind of cognitive dissonance, some new elements of surprise and unfamiliarity, you end up with boring elevator music and over teched out sameness. Jock represents the spice of life which needs to be balanced with blandness, salt, honey and bitters.
I am happy that Tyler has left the door open for a return.
Jock, what is your site? OjaiTruth.com is not a bad idea. I’d love to tell the full truth about Ojai but I hold back for fear of overstepping some bounds that I don’t see. I mean not even the liberal, open-minded parts of Ojai can take full bore, point blank, unadorned truth. Jock and MT might blink or duck.
We can only take in according to our capacity to hold. Fortunately, Ojai has great capacity because she is small; truth operates paradoxically and ironically and with humor. Unfortunately, I’m the serious, sad type; I need to take off my dunce hat and find the jester cap and bells. Listen for the tone of Ojai. However, if you’re going to set the tone, I’d appreciate you do it in reasonable terms, like with the comment guides. And I’d like freedom of expression to be near the top of the list. I see the sun is returning. A sign of Jock’s return as author and son of Ojai? I hope so.
where did all of these people come from? this is (ironically) the first we’ve heard from any of them. and they are not even in Ojai. jock should start his own blog and take them with him.
I beg your pardon. I have been here all of three years, and before that I lived in Ventura, the bottom of the Ojai Valley, for twelve years.
Ha. I was just imagining this self-righteous, minutia fueled conversation bitterly continuing in a FEMA camp over MRE rations and cold instant coffee. It is so good to be right, isn’t it.
DRA MA
goddess moon (ahi)
1 november 2008, 12:10
like subtlest shadow be
in the background ever-light
sketching, the defining,
of thee and thee
for all your timeless now
and every living creature be
the One whose caresses unseen
bring down her lightning, knowing,
sea
and sculpt every forest, every tree,
delicate gent-lass She,
(electricity …)
..
We all live in the world of our own, an illusionary world…
i am displeased that jock doubleday was censored. i dont think i will be back to this site and i shall advise my friends to do the same. jock is not mentally ill for exposing fraud and corruption, as someone posted above. if fact, it is no measure of health to be well adapted to a very sick society…
Colleen, if you are the same Colleen that frequently posted thought-provoking, intelligent and insightful commentary here a while back, then it would be a shame to see you leave. We need more female voices here, in my opinion.
Now, obviously, I can’t speak for Tyler or anyone else here, but I have my own thoughts on why Jock has totally and publicly self-destructed and helped engineer this whole embarrassing mess himself. What are your thoughts, for example, about his warning Ojai Posters of an imminent attack on American soil (I believed he cited a specific date) – a hypothesis based on the fact that a certain airline was not flying that day (El Al – and it was due to a Jewish holiday). Because in case you missed it, that is when much of the backlash started. Perhaps you feel differently, but in my opinion it was an extremely irresponsible and irrational post totally unsupported by fact. If it had just been a one off and he had said “Oops. My bad, guess I got that one wrong!” then maybe things wouldn’t have veered so off course for him the way it has. But, unfortunately, he has been guilty many times since of sharing this type “information” and when vigorously questioned about these very serious charges, he disappears! Or he asks us to watch a youtube video. Or read some unsourced article downloaded from the internet.
I have yet to read anything even half way lucid or insightful coming from Jock’s own mouth, so to speak. And I have yet to see him stick around for give and take discussions. In fact, there are several questions that I have posed to him several times that he has simply disregarded. He doesn’t like to “converse” with those of us who wish to remain anonymous. Fine. Fair enough. But there are others who have asked some hard questions repeatedly, and to my knowledge he still has yet to reply to them either. The Ojai Post is much, MUCH better than that. And it is also comprised of authors who, I’d wager, would never resort to the immature behaviour that he has shown through some of the comments he’s made here since being asked to leave.
Lacking respect for how Jock has handled himself here over the last year or so (both “journalistically” and “socially”) I for one would never want to read another thing he writes, REGARDLESS of the subject matter.
And for what it’s worth – I met Jock when he first came into town and, as he seemed like a really decent person, I liked him. I even went to see him in and another friend in a few readings he did over at Theatre 150 to show support. I have no doubt that he is a nice guy who believes deeply in what he is trying to get across. But there are ways in behaving that garner respect (and if not respect – tolerance) even when your worldview is different from those you are communicating with. And then there are ways that cause people to instinctively back away, shut down and ultimately (and unfortunately) lash out.
dark, yes. America, yes. brutal, yes. unenlightened, yes. timely, yes …
Jock Doubleday posts “first music video”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo1BnuKujQU
LTOR, you are thinking of coleen with one “L.” mostly these are made-up people whom we have never heard from before now.
my guess — jock has a few groupies and every time his name is in danger of dropping off the comments list, he gets another one to write in on his behalf….
“Two thousand years a go, a Roman Senator suggested that all slaves wear white armbands to better identify them.”
“No,” said a wiser Senator. “If they see how many of them they are, they may revolt.”
No more FEDeral Reserve!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv0QlZHu3oc
Ah, gotcha…
gitchi gitchi goo …
taigi IS Jock, and no doubt colleen with two Ls is a groupie.
Something smells bad. Jock is probably no mere slave sparking the flames of revolution. Jock was probably sent here by our masters. He is most likely their minion, dispatched to poison the waters and make the truth tellers look like liars and lunatics.
LTOR, ask Jock what his connection is to the FEDeral government.
Tyler, why exactly are you putting up with this? This is your baby, right?
The abolishment of the Federal Reserve IS an Ojai issue. It affects all of us in this country as you can see by the economic meltdown, we can’t pretend we aren’t suffering from this. Let Jock rock! People don’t have to read political comments if they don’t want, just like I don’t read the Sports page.
#40 Anonymous – I’m not going to be inconsistent with my moderation policy. Jock said I was censoring him, so I responded in a completely open manner. This thread is the result, for better or worse.
Meg – great to see you here. I encourage everyone to shop local, and be sure to stop by the Ojai House for your holiday giving, if you are so inclined or obligated. I bought a beautiful buddha planter pot just a few days ago from the Ojai House.
However, Meg, this thread is not about a sole issue, such as the abolishment of the Federal Reserve. It has to be put in greater context. I think I have been quite clear about why I have taken the actions I have done, and did not take those actions lightly, nor without hesitation.
Let Jock rock on his own Ojai community blog. It sounds like Jock should get in touch with you as one of the founding authors. I’m all for OjaiTruth.com!
had to watch Jock’s video twice — the gruesomeness, I am glad to say, wears off in the 2nd go ’round, as you begin to see Jock’s tongue in his cheek the whole speech. ‘Double-Day’ humor seems.
and now I also understand why Jock’s mixing of sexuality and the police state is so grotesque to me — it is a hundred percent copied from Hollywood — which I tried to get ten thousand miles away from when I ‘retired’ to New Zealand. Jock is playing to DEAD center mainstream Americana.
on same topic, just read the 2.5 megabyte article that government spook Rinaldo Brutoco sent around — where he, like spook Oblama — endorsed the Bush Gangster Wall Street Bailout earlier this month.
if the Rinaldo’s of the world ever get their wish to be appointed to the Supreme Court, the SEC, or to head up the US Treasury — it won’t be until then that they commit to doing something about the murderous FEDeral ‘reserve’, JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs — and what they will commit to do is join them …
Face it, Tyler — Jock will NEVER start his own blog. He lives for all the attention he gets on the Ojai Post, which is a thousand times more than he could ever get on his own blog. Look how he even got you to do his bidding for him by posting a whole article about him, with 43 comments so far.
Sooner or later you are going to have to face the fact that you have a couple of bad weeds growing in this garden…. much worse than Arundo… choking out all the beneficial growth.
*yawn*
MT, we’ve endured your comparisons of Obama to Bin Laden, now your use of the term “spook,” whether intentional or not, has absolutely crossed the line.
“endure” is the right word…how much longer do we have to endure these disrespectful, irrational outbursts from MT?
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