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Well, Looks like Clinton is going nuclear. I wonder if she'll pronounce the word like George W. does. Her speech just now was unbelievable. She actually used the phrase "stay the course." Can someone explain what she is doing. If she keeps this up all the way to the convention, John McCain will win. Is this her intention? Has it always been her intention?

It is all absolutely riveting! Let us fervently hope that her conscience seeks the greater good.

yes, spk, it's always been her intention for McCain to win. right. WTF?

I never quite understood the statement that Hillary is "polarizing".

Now I do.

according to the Ventura County Recorder's Office, there are 465,744 registered voters in our County, only 31.5% of which actually voted in yesterday's primary. this includes 25.3% of registered Democrats and 28.4% of registered Republicans.

there's little joy in all the talk of Ventura County "going blue" (meaning there are more registered D's than R's) if the red party's voter turnout is still higher.

the Ojai Valley Democratic Club has advised me that a voter shuttle to take people to polling places is not a need and would not be utilized. does anyone have any ideas as to how we can take action locally to increase our voter turnout?

Show people a realistic possibility that Gallegly will be tossed out. Start publizing just how awful the Bush/Cheney lapdog Gallegly really is, how traitorous he is to this country's ideals, how horrendous he is to the people of this county. Counter him with real policies and programs that will turn things around. Then people will act.

But otherwise, people like to stay in their bubble. Going face to face with the horror of reality, by showing up in the voting booth where people like Gallegly and McCain are not only on the ballot, but might actually win, is too much for most people to bear. Better to pretend its not happening, and get through this life.

It is going to be similar on the national level. If Obama and the Dems don't start calling out the fact that we cannot wait another week - that the Bush administration must be hamstrung, tied up, and prevented from acting until removed from office - it is hard to believe they truly understand how great is the need for change, NOW.

Just yesterday, Condie Rice was sharing the stage and chiming in on the message that Iran must be bombed before Bush leaves office.

The world can't wait for regime change here in the U.S. We can't wait. Asking us to wait, and vote, is weak. It is a recipe to keep people away from the polls, because it sends the message that what's happening now is fundamentally OK with all the candidates running, and that it will go on, perhaps with slight change. Instead, stop Bush now, take action, show us what you can do, Obama, Martinez, Pallant, Pelosi, Reid, and then the people of this country will rise up in incredible numbers and show up at the polls to put you in office.

Have no fear Evan, the voter turnout for the general election in November will be very high. The primary election yesterday was extremely minor, especially considering the fact that we had already voted for the Presidential Primaries back on Feb. 5th. It is still a good idea to talk about ways to register more people and get them to the polls for that election.

Curious, can you explain to me what Clinton is doing? You say I'm wrong about her wanting McCain to win so she can perhaps run against him in 2012(if he's even still alive). By then the economy will have completely collapsed and he'll have started another war, this time with Iran.

What exactly is she up to. Last night was the time to concede and begin our united attack on the Repugs and McSame, instead she decided to denigrate the nominee of her own party! I got a lot of flak on this blog for saying that I feared what Clinton would do as she continued her bid for the nomination even after she had inexorably lost in February. Now it looks as though I was correct. Is she deliberately destroying her own party, much like Liebermann tried to do? Her speech last night was an affront.

The bottom line is, racism. The majority of the people who are still so angry that Clinton didn't win are older white women. It is the soft racism of the dowager class at work here. They are angry that an upstart black man had the gall to challenge and beat their candidate, the first serious female contender for the nomination of a major party for the Presidency. I submit to you that had Edwards been the one with the same delegates as Obama, Clinton would have bowed out. At the very least, she would have conceded last night.

sexist POT calling KETTLE racist?

Right. I'm sexist. That one's been tried before.

how can you possibly justify calling her a racist? check yourself man!

"The bottom line is, racism. The majority of the people who are still so angry that Clinton didn't win are older white women. It is the soft racism of the dowager class at work here. They are angry that an upstart black man had the gall to challenge and beat their candidate..."

Curious, he didn't just imply racism on Clinton's part but of an entire group of people - older woman who supported her. (I agree - WTF?!?!) Way to go, SPK. The absolute gall it takes to post such a statement. Nothing he writes in the future should ever be taken seriously again. Unbelievable!

Hillary will hang on her own chad...

On a more sanguine note:
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-06-04-voa62.cfm

Angry...

You'll notice from the quote you posted that I said "the people who are still angry." Older white women are not all racist and I have never made that accretion. Your righteous indignation would seem to suggest that you believe otherwise.

The vast majority of Clinton's supporters are not racist and they are not threatening to destroy the Democratic party. In fact, many of her most ardent supporters have written or otherwise expressed their grave disappointment with Clinton's non-concession speech last night. Here's just one:

Hilary Rosen

Further, I used the term soft racism meaning that this reaction by a few of her supporters may be operating on the level of the subconscious. I seriously doubt that these people are overt racists. As to Clinton being a racist, I seriously doubt that as well, though some of the statements Bill Clinton made after South Carolina and some of the tactics employed by her campaign were hard to stomach. I believe that she is either operating from a place of stunned denial or calculated subversion. Of the two, I'd prefer to think that denial is the more likely case, especially given that she is now making genuine concession noises.

What I said may have been hard to hear, but it is what I think is happening. Rather than give any evidence that I might be wrong, or engage my argument with any facts, you instead chose to to admonish others that I should "(n)ever be taken seriously again." That's your prerogative, but I'll point out that should people desire to discount your postings rather than mine, they will have a hard time as you are completely anonymous. I routinely post with these initials, and people on this blog know that.