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Thank you, Rob and Didj!!!!! I was just thinking last night that I wish someone would post this!
I was just as appalled when I saw it the first time (and that was with the sound off) as I am now. Anyone who agrees with these tactics of fear and hate mongering, intimidation, humiliation and thuggery - I say:
SHAME. ON. YOU.
And further, if anyone thinks this a legitimate way to get people to support your cause, I say: Think again! A whole lotta moral ground was lost that weekend.
Just curious. Who are the two local men in the beginning of this clip -the one with the curly hair and sunglasses and the one holding the child?
Are they Ojai Post commenters or authors?Thanks.
Hey Demitri how about an"Illegals of Ojai Calender"?Or an "Minute Men of Ojai Calender"?You could put them in their favorite work or non-work settings and the other in their protest or border guarding settings,i think I'm onto something!
They go around city to city breaking up day labor sites with loud, angry, threatening protests. I really suspect it was more that they wanted to come and be ugly where the laborers look for work. They're affiliated with Save Our State/No More Invasion, which in turn are identified somewhat with the Southern California Minutemen - which the military has identified as a domestic terror cell.
I've been by that corner a bunch of times, and usually there are, on average, two or three downhearted-looking dudes there, who don't particularly look like they could be a threat to themselves, much less bring about the catastrophes that these people are warning of. Even if I were viciously anti-immigration myself - and I'm not - it would be really hard for me to justify coming to someone else's home community and shoving pepper spray in faces over three placid-looking day laborers - not to mention, they had no proof that anyone was actually here illegally, though that didn't stop them from making accusations.
The worst part about them is that they're perfectly willing to fabricate rumors about people who they think are "un-American", including people who engage them and disagree with them on the street, and at least one member of this group (and one of the worst liars) is a lawyer and professor at a Southern California college.
The thing that scares me the most about the whole thing isn't even what they do, it's that there is an educational institution in our country that's currently employing a man who's willing to walk around threatening people and consorting with domestic terror groups. I don't even want to think about what he's putting in the heads of the youth he's teaching, but that's neither here nor there.
Anyway, stay away from these men and women if at all possible, as they have indicated no indication that they will refrain from hurting people, and in my mind have given every indication that they would enjoy every second of it. It's absolutely not worth it.
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Thank you, Rob and Didj!!!!! I was just thinking last night that I wish someone would post this!
I was just as appalled when I saw it the first time (and that was with the sound off) as I am now. Anyone who agrees with these tactics of fear and hate mongering, intimidation, humiliation and thuggery - I say:
SHAME. ON. YOU.
And further, if anyone thinks this a legitimate way to get people to support your cause, I say: Think again! A whole lotta moral ground was lost that weekend.
Comment #1 Posted by: LTOR | April 16, 2008 05:36 AM
while holding pepper spray IN HER FACE (not just pointing it in her direction) and saying, "go back to your own corner" to a black teen girl...
sick
Comment #2 Posted by: curious | April 16, 2008 08:03 AM
Just curious. Who are the two local men in the beginning of this clip -the one with the curly hair and sunglasses and the one holding the child?
Are they Ojai Post commenters or authors?Thanks.
Comment #3 Posted by: Anonymous | April 16, 2008 09:48 AM
Congratulations Rob on leaving the OVN and good luck on all future endeavors. Hopefully we can work together.
Comment #4 Posted by: spk | April 16, 2008 03:35 PM
Hey Demitri how about an"Illegals of Ojai Calender"?Or an "Minute Men of Ojai Calender"?You could put them in their favorite work or non-work settings and the other in their protest or border guarding settings,i think I'm onto something!
Comment #5 Posted by: Mario Gonzales | April 17, 2008 10:42 AM
Why did the people come into ojai to protest it? Do they go around to city and city?
Comment #6 Posted by: Anonymous | April 19, 2008 01:34 AM
They go around city to city breaking up day labor sites with loud, angry, threatening protests. I really suspect it was more that they wanted to come and be ugly where the laborers look for work. They're affiliated with Save Our State/No More Invasion, which in turn are identified somewhat with the Southern California Minutemen - which the military has identified as a domestic terror cell.
I've been by that corner a bunch of times, and usually there are, on average, two or three downhearted-looking dudes there, who don't particularly look like they could be a threat to themselves, much less bring about the catastrophes that these people are warning of. Even if I were viciously anti-immigration myself - and I'm not - it would be really hard for me to justify coming to someone else's home community and shoving pepper spray in faces over three placid-looking day laborers - not to mention, they had no proof that anyone was actually here illegally, though that didn't stop them from making accusations.
The worst part about them is that they're perfectly willing to fabricate rumors about people who they think are "un-American", including people who engage them and disagree with them on the street, and at least one member of this group (and one of the worst liars) is a lawyer and professor at a Southern California college.
The thing that scares me the most about the whole thing isn't even what they do, it's that there is an educational institution in our country that's currently employing a man who's willing to walk around threatening people and consorting with domestic terror groups. I don't even want to think about what he's putting in the heads of the youth he's teaching, but that's neither here nor there.
Anyway, stay away from these men and women if at all possible, as they have indicated no indication that they will refrain from hurting people, and in my mind have given every indication that they would enjoy every second of it. It's absolutely not worth it.
Comment #7 Posted by: Nev | April 21, 2008 07:16 AM