Comments on: What does $456 billion buy?

By: Dennis Leary

Dennis Leary — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:25:44 +0000

The war drags on and drags Ojai into it. I have asked the Ojai council to speak up against the war. They won’t. Sort of shows where their hearts are: with the money. Remember, they are our representatives; the ones we voted in. That makes us culpable for the war, too. Wake up, Ojai!

By: Dennis Leary

Dennis Leary — Tue, 15 May 2007 18:31:29 +0000

Let’s face it. The system is broken beyond repair. Time to recycle it. Tune in to truth, turn on to love and drop out of the system, as Uncle Timothy said. “Is Another Way Possible” above really nailed it. I am getting more radical as to solutions. I speak as an individual, a party of one, and take the heat as a fringe element to myself, so no other person or group is painted with the same brush as I am painted with. I disassociate myself from Democratic party like appeasers. Money, sex and violence are the three main roots of evil and this Iraq war illustrates the premise. Thanks for the info.

By: evan

evan — Tue, 15 May 2007 01:56:54 +0000

"How many innocent women and children will you kill in their sleep tonight with the dollars that are being withheld from today's paycheck?" this one has troubled me for a long time. Is Another Way Possible? sure is: Peace Taxes.

By: Chain Free Ojai

Chain Free Ojai — Mon, 14 May 2007 21:31:00 +0000

A similar question closer to home:
What would the money being spent by the City of Ojai on the initiatives SLAPP buy?

By: spk

spk — Mon, 14 May 2007 19:53:44 +0000

It doesn't but universal health care, though it would more than cover that cost. It dosen't buy research into alternative fuel or the infrastructure for solar and wind power that would seriously reduce our dependance on oil. It doesn't make us any safer; in fact it makes us drastically less safe. It doesn't even lower the price of a gallon of gas for the suv drivers. It just pays for more coroprate welfare for Haliburton, KBR, Lockheed Martin, United Defense, Blackwater, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics and on and on. Here's a bit about the cost of this illegal war from Bill Moyers

By: Is Another Way Possible?

Is Another Way Possible? — Mon, 14 May 2007 19:34:56 +0000

This relates back to recent comments on another thread. The solution is, tune in, turn on, drop out.
How much of the money you earn today will go to your corporate and government masters? 80%? 90%?
How many innocent women and children will you kill in their sleep tonight with the dollars that are being withheld from today’s paycheck?
How much of the money you earn today will you actually spend on things that bring you joy?
Any of it?
How much would you really need to earn today if:
- You owned your own land and home free and clear of debt, something considered a right in most parts of the world, and something even the poorest peasants in most countries have;
- You and your children had excellent education and health care paid for as a matter of right from your taxes, as the price of putting up with government, as is also a right in most civilized countries;
- Your water, electricity, internet, and similar utilities were owned and run by the community, as part of the commons?
- You did not have to drive 50-200 miles every day to get to and from work;
- You had time to tend your own garden and trade vegetables and eggs and chickens and you name it with your like-minded neighbors.
These are the questions we might start answering by focusing on turning the Ojai Valley into a model sustainable green community.

By: Dennis Leary

Dennis Leary — Mon, 14 May 2007 19:12:09 +0000

The 50 trillion dollar theft is just an example of what is happening all the time in the money scam with is so prevalent that we do not even see it.

By: Millennium Twain

Millennium Twain — Mon, 14 May 2007 18:17:50 +0000

on 9/11, the Stock Play, the Bankers took a hundred times MORE
money from us .. $50 Trillion, Fifty Trillion Dollars!!
that is $50,000,000,000,000 !!!
Fifty THOUSAND Billion Dollars!
that is Ten Thousand Dollars from
EACH AND EVERY individual on the PLANET!
WHO OWNS YOU?

By: pete lafollette

pete lafollette — Mon, 14 May 2007 16:51:19 +0000

“Peace – An End ”
Peace is a word
Of the sea and the wind.
Peace is a bird who sings
As you smile.
Peace is the love
Of a foe as a friend;
Peace is the love you bring
To a child
Searching for me
You look everywhere,
Except beside you.
Searching for you
You look everywhere,
But not inside you.
Peace is a stream
From the heart of a man;
Peace is a man, whose breadth s the dawn.
Peace is a dawn
On a day without end;
Peace is the end, like death Of the war.
-Fripp, Sinfield

By: Todd Miller

Todd Miller — Mon, 14 May 2007 16:32:29 +0000

I think it’s worth noting that our elected officials would never dream of proposing to spend $54 billion a year to eliminate starvation globally or $30 billion a year to educate for every child on earth, though commiting these funds to a war which does not serve taxpayers’ interests is not a problem. Eliminating global hunger and educating every child would not just be a noble thing to do from a humanitarian perspective, but it would greatly reduce the animosity that our current policies engender. It would go a long way toward bringing a fractured world together, enabling us to fund constructive pursuits instead of destructive ones.