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on this day in herstory, year 1430 of our Lady, Joan Of Arc was captured in France and sold to the British Crown!

Good questions, MT. I'm glad you asked. It's a perfect setup for my stream of consciousness reply. Hi, I'm Dennis. You've been forewarned so you can switch channels now.

I've seen the movie Elizabeth but not the Queen and have read nothing about the latter so I'm completely in the dark there. Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II; interesting bookends. You ask if great good is in the offing. Perhaps, but it is hidden beneath great evil: always that paradox. The great good is womam's consciousness; the great evil is patriarchy which killed it roughly 6000 years ago. These two womem had/have female bodies but they were drowned in patriarchy, as are practically all womem and men today. That last scene in Elizabeth I is telling, as she is swallowed up by the system of manpower. I would have to look pretty deep to see the merest spark of a womam in the second Elizabeth, so utterly consumed as she is by the money-power system; despite all her props and preps, she looks like one of the living dead. In that regard, the two queens serve as examples of a world gone wrong. I associate Eliz I with Shakespeare. The two may have been very close, some even argue that they were the same, or that she was collaborator in their hoax, involving herself as a co-writer and the man from Stratford on Avon as the cover. I like the theory because it supports my theory that womem are the superior sex although buried by patriarchy. An Elizabeth Shakespeare gives us a glimpse of the truth.

The present world power structure is white European at its center. Eliz II is a nice symbolic cover. The US is an offshoot of this root. London is still the real core in this quasi messianic conciousness. Goes back to Roman times. I think it was Aeneus who founded Rome after the fall of Troy in one legend. After Rome fell, Britain became the new Rome, linking with another belief that Britain is the new Israel with one of the tribes settling there. There is some kind of an Admiralty Law that claims the US is still owned by England, and England is still ruled in law by the Pope of Rome. An attorney told me that even now some judges keep a small admiralty flag on the dias. Fanciful to be sure, but I don't underestimate these underlying messianic beliefs. Look at what is happening in Israel now; the hard core believe the Messiah is going to physically return.

See "Money Masters" for the money network that powers these ancient blood and money lines. Money buys a lot of power and rewrites history in the process. The Rothchilds still rule, particularly from London. Nowadays, it looks like America is being cut loose and Britain is going to reclaim its lost colony. The bushites are stooges to bring America down like the Romans. The international bankers rule by stealth and deception, funding both sides of war, and stealing the poor and middle classes blind through the money scam. The US doesn't even have control of its own money; the Federal Reserve Bank is a private corporation ruled by a handful of elitist families. In this sense, Eliz II is a handy cover symbol of these hidden racketeers.

At this point in my stream of consciousness I feel like switching to a different stream (a different track, to switch metaphors in mid-stream). The private property scam comes to mind. This is the red herring and red flag that fools the bull every time and spreads the bull at the same time. I think of the Pratt Trail thread of a couple of days ago which has now disappeared somewhere into the archives; the one where Joshua and Suza complained of the fence, and had the incident of the deer slamming into the fence, and their dogs chasing the deer; which brought up the vigorous discussion of property rights vs. nature's rights on the aforesaid thread. I walk Shelf Road so Pratt Trail does not bother me personally; and knowing what I know now, I will avoid it. Yesterday I was walking Shelf and thought how I would detest it if Shelf Road where built up under the false flag of private property rights. Just inside the barrier on the Signal St. side there is the ubiquitous "Private Property; no trespassing" sign. Then there is the chain link fence that protects the avocado and organge trees. Perhaps the owner put the fence there because of liability if children should fall down the steep slope (or the city built the fence) but if so a smaller earth friendly fence could have done the job. The private property shell game should easily be trumped by public good truth but it is propped up by smokescreens and propaganda that it is almost impossible to penetrate. The taboos surrounding private property prevent meaningful discussion which I'll leave for another time; suffice it to say that this private property/money scam is what threatens us all with destruction, right down here to little Ojai. And it is not happening by chance but by a carefully crafted plan by the financial elites who are playing God in the patriarchal godfather version.

Anyway, on my walk yesterday along Shelf, I reflected on the threat that the private property scheme had on Pratt Trail and might someday have on Shelf Road. I then began to think about animals, specifically the gods (sorry for the Freudian slip; I meant dogs) battling on either side of the infamous fence. As a poster pointed out, the does (another slip, honest, I meant to type dogs) should have been leashed. On my walk I must have passed in the opposite direction 30 or 40 dogs with their owners (mostly women); only one was leashed, and that one was unleashed when it passed me. I am opposed to pets in general on ecological, psychological and spiritual grounds but let that pass for now. I thought on my walk: what right do we have to put fences up in nature's paradise; what rights to we have to leash animals and take away their freedom; and what rights do we have to make pets of animals in the first place. I further reflected that it was probably because of misplaced human needs for love, safety and control; which was a vast displacement of love energy from its proper object, other humams.

Time is about up on this public computer so have to bring this to a close; mercifully, I'm sure to my would be mentors. Let me link back to the two Elizabeths who serve as covers for patriarchy, ememy number one in my mind. MT questioned whether there was a great good there. Yes, probably but it's pretty deeply hidden and needs persistent and hard digging to find. See you later, alligator.

Two years after the death of Princess Diana, in 1999-2000, while the former colonies of the US were again returning to a primitive mobster rule -- a quiet revolution of the British constitution, the oldest and greatest 'unwritten' constitution, was achieved by the people under the new labour Prime Minister Tony Blair. The House of Lords Act ended the privilege of inherited title and position in the British Parliament -- signaling the approach of a day of a Universal Electoral Parliament, inclusive of each and every British citizen by right of their simply being human.

Well said, Diamond!

I was in New Zealand at the time, yet I do not recall being aware of the big news from London of the expulsion of hundreds of 'Lords' from the House of Lords!

If the public Trend in the UK is to create a collective or direct Parliament, then it will not be long at all before the Americas and all ephemeral nation-states will voice and demand the same.

Obviously it was not discussed in the Movie "Queen", as that movie only dealth with one week in 1997 -- when Tony Blair was elected by a landslide, followed by Princess Diana's death (the day after Blair's election?), and the subsequent week of London and England's and the World's reaction to the silence from the Queen and the Monarchy.

This certainly is the issue of the Age -- as perhaps Dennis would largely concur -- whether you name it global land reform, total socio-political empowerment, or international enlightenment -- the Ethical Turning Point of the World where only UNIVERSAL privilege, stewardship and responsibility will enable planetwide motivation, collaboration and decision-making, and the power to bring Mother Earth back to life.

With all our sacred relations ...

Good morning. The sun has just burned off the heavy fog that draped my neck of the woods. Looks like another magnificent day here in paradise. I'll be taking a two hour stroll later up and over Shelf Road to drink in all the beauty of our valley. I'm Dennis.

MT, I just linked to Elton John's Candle in the Wind. Thanks. I don't remember where I was at the time but I somehow missed it all. I'll have to see "Queen" to catch up. Nice summary of where we are in our collective journey home. Princess Di certainly touched a nerve and I couldn't help reflect on the raw reality/stark contrast of what might have been going on in the dark background. Conspiracy theories abound that Diana was killed, the usual terrorizing of the sheeple and showing them who's boss. It's comforting to learn of the reforms in the English parliament but I am suspicious that it's only widow (another slip) dressing. Lords and Ladies are passe but the same posse still rides herd. Light and darkness still contend and Armageddon appears to be a real possibility in our lifetimes. As the saying goes, we live in interesting times. Diana was a soft light for hard times. Anyway, your post is thought provoking, so I'll play with it while it still has number two billing and before it slips into archival oblivion.

I very seldom read the newspaper but this morning I went out into the fog and picked up the Star from the driveway of the house I live at. As I looked at the paper lying there like some discarded cluster bomb, I thought that it was a poison. Sure enough, Condoleezza Rice was headlined spewing her lying propaganda on the front page and King George his somewhere on the inside. Same old poison. Terrify the people; soften them up for the kill. Lies, lies and more lies, 911 being the big lie told over and over. What really angers me is how the MSM (Mainstream Media) feeds us this poison day after day; but then they're paid to do just that, with our money. Goebbels did it more openly but then he didn't have Madison Avenue science to fine tune the art. The winner of America's Idol showed her ecstatic joy; somehow reminded me of Nero's circuses. A Torrance soldier's body is picked out of Baghdad's river and is mourned, like a rerun from ancient Babylonia or Assyria. Speaking of poison, the strawberry farmers are in a panic that their poison may be curtailed. Horrors. It's bad for business. Got to get that poison out the supermarket shelves. I used to pass these strawberry fields every day on my way to work, plastic sheets by the mile smothering dead soil; symbols of our packaged, pesticized souls. On the back page, the Pope is forced to admit that maybe church-state conquest of the Americas 500 years ago could have had some minor flaws. No kidding. How about wiping out 90% of the population, mostly with animal related small pox. For what? Gold? Not much has changed except now it's done with a smile and a handshake, and posed photo ops. And to think I could have this poison delivered to my doorstep at such a bargain; or better yet, have a satellite dish on my roof and have the poison beamed right into my head by way of the TV. The wonders of modern science, and for such a cheap price.

Yesterday at the library I read this long article in Harpers by a cancer nurse. I am not a cancer nurse but I am a nurse, and I can remember dealing with what she talked about. I never mixed those aluminum foiled poison bags up myself but I sure can remember them hanging by bedsides like hangman nooses. I have a friend who is getting chemo now for cancer; hair gone, etc. I drove him to the doctor. Talk about a horror show; it gives me the creeps. To actually poison your body; that's what modern science has come to; fits in perfectly with our cancer and heart deprived culture. I don't know what I would do if I had cancer but I would strongly consider not doing what my friend is, but who knows what I would do in the actual event. My parents both died of cancer in their early 50's and I was with them and did the funerals. There's a connection somewhere between poison papers and poison bottles. The irony is that chemo does work sometimes. My theory is that the body politic and physic is so confused and terrorized by modern culture and karma that it submits to dictatorial poison because it is some kind of order and authority, so deparately craved. America is sliding into fascism because of the lack of a countervening authority; and so does the body. Heart disease and cancer are the designer signs of the times. I see it as lack of love, no heart that can keep the lines free and rule the ruthless cells. It gets very tricky because of all the taboos and emotionally loaded minefields. In the long view there is much good that comes out of the cancer movement but it really is crazy. It's spawned a whole industry of heroes and businesses. When I think about it, I get in touch with that vast underlying fear of chaos, of cells and universes spinning out of control. The natural center doesn't hold and an artificial poison command headquarters in set up in its place. I think the ancient wisdom writer who said "Love casts out fear" was right on, and I have my own practices to apply that dictum.

Back to the Queen, the most powerful piece on the board and the subject of this thread. The good queen and the evil queen; Cinderella and her sisters; Princess Diana and patriarchy. Powerful symbols. Diana is the moon goddess; Ojai is another one of her names. Womam consciousness. Powerful. Full of power. A red blooded antidote to the hard rain/reign of poison that cancers/cancels us. A womam's love casts out fear. I'm going to walk the hills and look over her valley vulva in a bit. Stream consciousness, stream; without fear, she is here. The rest is silence. Silence is rest. Our hearts are restless until they rest in her. Augustine had a mother. Santa Monica. Los Padres and Santa Monica; father and mother; hills and valley; TOPA and OPA; opa and oma. But the greatest of these is love. Love and cancer have this much in common: craziness; but love is crazy like a fox and cancer is crazy like a terrorized sheep. Falling in love is crazy but she knows what she is doing. Sweet, sweet love, where have you gone? Well, I know where I'm going. Shelf Road.

As I was waiting for my post to post, I reread the first comment by Kostya. How brilliant and ironic. Says more in those few words than all my ramblings. Thanks.

aye, bravo Kostya!

and Dennis, Queen The Movie was really perhaps the most revealing movie portrayal I have ever seen -- of the privilege and power of the world's old gentry.

the movie went out of its way to make it very clear that the Monarch speaks and acts only under total direction. the Crown's job is to preserve the ancient interests of the patriarchy, the gentry who own the land, the Bankers who own everything else, the Church, the Freemasons, the legal establishment, etc. etc.

Queen Elizabeth II and family, in the movie, went to great pains to state that it was them against 'the meritocracy', the people, the politicians, the media (which they also own), and the "celebrities and the homsexuals", to quote Prince Phillip directly.

for the positive, the movie Queen went on to say that the world-mind had changed ... that the old values of private power and suppressed emotions had been surpassed by this era of "wearing our emotions on our sleeves."

the most humorous revelation, for US citizen-serfs, the UK's soldier population, is the obvious -- that whereas the UK without a Constitution is legally permitted to evolve into a system of universal direct representation, a citizen-wide Parliament -- the US in contrast is obliged to abide by a Constitution which from day one placed ALL power and ownership in the hands of the old guard of the UK and Europe -- again the lawyers and the bankers and the church!

unlike the citizens of the fourteen nations of which Queen Elizabeth II is their sovereign and 'Angel' of last resort -- the rabble-army of the the US has no recourse to any institution of ethics or human rights. the US citizenry -- those of the middle and lower classes -- have but access to a court system whose only purpose is to victimize all concerned, taking every dollar the people have, and stealing their assets and incomes for years or decades to come ...

Dennis wrote:

"My theory is that the body politic and physic is so confused and terrorized by modern culture and karma that it submits to dictatorial poison because it is some kind of order and authority, so deparately craved. America is sliding into fascism because of the lack of a countervening authority; and so does the body."

I have always had a great respect for Elizabeth II, as she was always above it all and there was really nothing that she did that hurt her people. She always appeared to have a great love for the UK and Her Commonwealth of Nations. The Queen movie referred to, I believe did portray accurately the fact that they are different. They are royal, in their perception everybody who is not like them are commoners. But let us not judge, let us just be observers as the truth will be made known when the time is right. The word “drama’ used in the subject line is just what it is, a drama... Let us not consider that “the Queen” is anything special and certainly should not affect our belief system. The only inspiration I received in watching the movie, was how well Helen Mirren portrayed the role of HRH, Charles/Tony Blair were accurate as well, but the Duke of Edinburgh (The Queen’s husband) is far more vitriolic in real life.

Please let us not equate it to anything Spiritual, rather a truism representation as to how they felt about Dianna and her passing. For me who stood in London that day in August to watch the funeral procession pass was totally overwhelmed at the outpouring of grief and Love, there were 100s of thousands of people and there was absolute silence apart from a coordinated bell toling. It was an experience that I will never forget, watching the movie did not produce any emotion or surprises.

This is one of the most important films so far this year. It brings back the great sadness of the death of Princess Diana in such a powerful way. I remembr the day the Princess of Wales died in that terrible car accident, I was young but it is a moment in time that will stick with me for life.

Such emotion came over England... and the world. She was a princess to the people and when she was gone, the people really suffered. Does this movie show what actually happened inside the palace during the days of England's mourning? I really couldn't say.

Well this is an interesting Synch for me, from across the water! I had this conversation with someone very recently. I thought the Queen movie did not display the monarch in a very favorable light at all.

Also, my son is associated with the Princess of Wales own Regiment. I was able to view some very personal and candid photos of Diana. That woman was stunning, her smile was wonderous, and she absolutely glowed.

G'day Donna, beauty's blessings!

are their many organizations that carry on
Diana's global consciousness-raising works?

viz the global security state warfare, and the
most visible signs -- the landmines, the refugees,
the oil tankers and automotive industry?

did anyone speak with HER voice [imagine if SHE
had been here TOO speak in 2001!] when the global
bankers brought on 9/11 and new levels of enforced
ignorance and obedience to the 'trans-Euro-national'
security state?

all our sacred relations witnessing ...

I think that Diana had a huge impact on the UK rioyal family, esp when she died. She'd opened their eyes to how life is for the majority of people and not just their little world. Diana's tried to help so many in improving their lives, like Mother Theresa (among others). Hoping that more people like Diana will continue to have the strength to make such a difference for the better

blessings Lisa,

I had a dream last night, a visit from Prince Charles, and a discussion of why the people hate royalty so much, and why they loved Diana, and what could be done to improve that situation, THE world-situation, for all concerned!

Going to have to write it up, and see if it sparks further global
positive dialog!

Channelling Charles -- Entitling A Universal 'Royalty'?

In the dream Prince Charles came to speak with me on
this question of why the 'common people' so often poured
out their anger against the Monarchy and royalty. A dialog
which grew to include all the rich and powerful, including
the government and its elected 'representatives' .

He also spoke of the two sides of Diana's personality, viz.
both saint and sinner, who captured the attention of the
media and the world, and made life so difficult for the ruling
Windsor family!

I suggested to him that the solution to his dilemna, and to
that of the British public, was to address the fundamentals
and not the symptoms. Instead of furthering forever the
battleground of serf and master -- of ruling class and victim
class -- why not look to the 1999 example of the updating of
the House of Lords into a House of Baron-Peers?

Why not beknight ALL the deserving people of Britain, and
indeed ALL the UK, to a House of Mentors, and House of
Humanity? Create a universal entitlement to self-directed
participation in the institution and the economy -- and thus
universal protection from barbarisms of the predatory guilds
of organized crime, business, medicine, banking, law, media,
military, government, all?

One can imagine a starting point inclusive of more than
half the population -- all of those who had reached the
age of 30 or 35 say -- and had learned to read and write,
had demonstrated a life or evolution beyond violence and
abuse, and led lives of significant service and example to
their communities and the whole planet. A direct democracy
or direct judicial -- whose purpose is not to further the evils
of the institution and judiciary, but principally to PROTECT
the people from those courts and the government, as well
as from the corporate state!

Demonstrate to the world what 'Royalty' could and should
mean -- if even the word/concept need continue -- of a life
of service to spirit and culture -- as protectors of the legacy
of humanity, and the divine wilderness of life, of Mother
Earth. If Britain has made a positive mark on the world in
recent years, it was solely due to its honest sincerity, of the
carnage against Mother Gaia, of the catastrophe of Global
Warming and the death of the Rainforest and the Oceans.
Of their turning around the monster machines of Wall Street
and Washington -- launching the beginnings of a global
dialog and process of planetary healing, world redemption.

What would be MORE effective at protecting BOTH image
and security of the gentry, and furthering their lives
and that of the WHOLE OF BRITAIN AND THE UK -- than
to recognize and uplift the WHOLE OF THE FAMILY ...
all together?

Then the example that Diana set -- of caring for all peoples --
of nurturing the WHOLE of our human family -- could be
followed by an entire nation, the whole commonwealth,
and eventually by an entire world.

With all our sacred relations,

Millennium Twain

Thanks for the continuing, interesting discussion here. MT, I like your visionary utopia. I don't mean that it is impractical; just that theory usually precedes practice. We need a vision and a utopia to jump start peaceful revolution. The terms "house of humanity" jumped out at me. People have this love/hate relationship with royalty because it mirrors them. We all have blue blood in our veins as red blood in arteries. We are blue bloods and know intuitively that we were in past lives and will be in future lives living royally. People love Diana AND the Queen.

I was reading the bible last night and was struck by the oddity of John's phrase: "In my father's house there are many mansions..." I've always thought that thought was odd. How can there be many mansions in a house...unless it is a "house of humanity" or house of consciousness, love, peace, etc. This expanded version of house consciousness is more real than the physical houses we see but requires an elevated consciousness to see.

Classes are part of nature. The problem comes when one class suppresses another. Both suffer. I can see that with how unhappy the royal family was in the movie. The upper classes are to be servants of the servants, according to natural law. The sun serves us although it could swallow us in an eyeblink. The so called royals and blue bloods abuse their position by selfish retention of wealth which is a hidden tax on the poor. I don't have the patience to go into all that deconstruction process here; and I have benefitted from your (MT) posts in the past re same.

The common people are angry at royalty for this abuse of power. The blue eyed whites really do think they are the superior race, and that they have a divine mandate to rule and save the brown eyes from themselves. What arrogance and delusion about a master race! But I believe it is the bitter truth that a small group thinks it is God's chosen. As usual we have metaphysics exactly backward. God is not up there and he is not blue eyed and blue skinned. Godus is right here and she is not brown eyed and brown skinned. By definition, Godus and her consort, God, can be whatever they wish to be. Just because some white skinned, blue eyed gods came to earth from some star cluster and intermarried with brown skins does not make the blues superior. It's a logical fallacy. The browns were here first so if anything, they are superious (sic). If you mix all the pigments of the earth together, you get brown. If you mix light, you get white. So what? It doesn't prove anything. If you mix brown and white, what do you get? Now that proves something!

This whole royal/commoner dichotomy is illusionary, except in the context of this class game we play; absolutely necessary for the purposes of the game. The players are cautioned at the outset that a game is a game after all, the last will be first, and the higher must serve the lower. The beautiful princess story would not be half so entertaining without a wicked queen. In the end, the wicked queen will turn out to be the longed for good mother; sort of like in the patriarchal paradigm where Darth Vader takes off his beaver and throws the Evil Emperor down the drain. Thanks again for these very interesting discussions.